by butch
Huaching Invitational-Updates
November 7, 2009 in Blogroll, News by butch
8th flr. CLOTILDE Bldg
Mandaue City, November 8, 2009, 8AM:
Day 1 Highlights
- Presence of Mayor Jonas Cortes of Mandaue City, TATAP Pres. Col. Hawthorne Binag and TATAP SecGen Atty. Domingo Panlilio in the opening ceremony.
Scholars Challenge:
- Davao’s wonderboy, Gil Ablanque knocked-out Cebu’s wonderboy, Dannel Jay Tormis in the 1st round. Both are lefties and Palaro Gold medalists Score: 10-12, 11-6, 5-11, 11-9, 11-7
Team Event:
- 13-year old Dannel Jay Tormis of University of Cebu defeated former Phil. Team Julius Esposo. Score: 9-11, 6-11, 11-8, 11-9, 11-9 but Team Huaching-A won over University of Cebu.
Start of Day 2
Team Semi–Finals (starts at 9am)
*HUACHING A
1. Yossi of Indonesia
2. Julius Esposo
3. Jason Rodriguez
4. Glenn Rodriguez
*HUACHING B
1. Richard Gonzales
2. Jhong Ortalla
3. Genesis Dapat
*IMPERIUM TECH
1. Rodel Valle
2. Pong Ducenas
3. Nestor Ferre
4. Raymund Manlapaz
*METTA B
1. Lauro Crisostomo
2. Joseph Cruz
3. Nico Cruz
Scholars Challenge Top 8
1. Glenn Rodriguez
2. Ruel Saladaga
3. Monark Broqueza
4. Justin Daniel
5. Pong Ducenas
6. Evan Ramos
7. Zoren Mendiola
8. Nico Cruz
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Thanks a lot Butch. Ano na standing?
too bad I wasn’t able to make it to this huaching Invitational TT tournament as I had to rush to Singapore for a seminar on physical wellness, but nevertheless through this forum of Harry I am able to know the latest happenings. Wow! nice to know TATAP president Binag is visible now in TT tournaments, he’s maybe sourcing out funds for SEAG bound TT players. Ka Butch, was VP D. Ortalla there too with Binag? Sige…TATAP leaders, maghanap na kayo ng pera para sa mga kawawang pingpong players natin. I said kawawa kasi walang training/preparation ang mga national team players natin who will see action in Laos SEAG. comprehensive planning/training for them ang most important aspect kung lalaban sila sa SEAG. OMG (Oh My God) for exposure lang pala ang national team natin sa SEAG kasi super mahihina ang mga players. Eh kung sa Huaching tournament palang talo na si Esposo what more pa sa Laos SEAG? Who’s fault is this? definitely, TATAP’s shortcomings.The gov’t spent a lot sa mga chinese imported coaches, ano ang benefits na na kuha ng mga TT players natin sa kanila? Bokya!!! As I have said before, we don’t need coaches here cause we have enough at magagaling pa. Coach Aguinalde is one. Dapat ibalik siya sa national team. He has all the qualities we need in a good coach. Ang Tanong, Will he still be willing to go back to the national team and coach because I was informed he is busy with his developmental programs for TT in Makati at sabi ng iba ayaw daw ni coach Gigi ng bulok na sistema na pinaiiral ng TATAP ngayon. How true are the rumors that Coach Aguinalde will go back to hard training overseas to play again for the Philippine flag? Wow! a playing coach so to speak? Hala mga ka pongers alamin natin ito…Lets open our 7 senses. Personally gusto ko nga siya sa TATAP, because he can be of help to col Binag pa. Malinis ang dangal at record ng national coach na ito, he will surely be an asset to the TT community.
@harry:
Updates as of 12 noon:
Team Championship: Huaching A versus Huaching B
Scholars Challenge: Nico Cruz versus Glenn Rodriguez
Cool, anong team yung 3rd place?
Sino bet mo sa scholars challenge?
At his age, malakas si Tormis kung tinalo nya si Esposo.
@Harry, maglalaban ang Imperium Tech versus METTA B for 3rd place.
Glenn Rodriguez bet ko. Most na nakalaban ni Tormis ay hirap daw sila sa patagong service nya dahil lefty. Kayang kaya e-block ni Gil Ablanque ang side-loop nya kahit tatlong balikan pa. Tumataas ang moral ni Dan Tormis pag mas magaling or senior ang kalaban.
FINAL RESULTS:
Team Champion: Huaching B
1st Runner-up: Huaching A
2nd Runner-ups: METTA A and Imperium Technology
Scholars Challenge Champion: Glenn Rodriguez
1st Runner: Nico Cruz
2nd Runner-ups: Monark Broqueza and Pong Ducanes
Masusan:
Diyan na ako di bilib sa iyo, May dinadala ka ng Manok in the name of #####, Parang ang dating eh namumulitika ka na. Mud slinging tapos panay ang puri mo sa kabila. And I don’t think it’s fair.
Mali ka rin sa pag kakilala mo kay Julius Esposo. Makamandag pa rin yan, Malayo pa ang laro ni Jay Tormis para talunin niya si Julius “Devil Boy” Esposo. Wala namang bearing ang laro natural lang na pasikatin ni Julius ang batang si Jay Tormis. Amo nman ni Julius ang Boss ng Huaching FYI.At yung pag katalo ni Glen kay tormis ganun din ang dating sa akin, nilag lag lang para sumikat ang bata; fyi lang ulit magaling naman talaga si Jay Tormis pero hindi pa hinog hehe.
Tama ka sa iniisip mo na outsourcing of fund ang pakay ni Press. Binag and its good, dapat lang na bumisita siya duon. Yan din ang hinala ko.
Mali ka na naman na mahina ang Nat’l Team natin going to Laos. And I tell you na your so bulgar na at sobrang hangin na rin ang utak mo. Hindi mo na naisip na ang sinasagasaan mo na ay mga atleta na. Hindi kasalanan ng atleta na na under sila sa TATAP.Hindi mo kayang patunayan na hindi nag papractice ang mga atleta natin going to Laos; in fact practice na nga ang ginagawa nila na sumali sa mga tournaments kung nakaka intindi ka nga talaga na ibig mong iparating sa mga bumabasa dito. Wag kang masyadong bookies lalo na tungkol sa coaching. Sa tingin ko hindi mo porte yan.
Imbes na patatagin mo ang loob ng atleta natin going Laos, binababa mo pa ! Para tuloy kung hindi ang manok mo ang mag coach hindi gagaling ang nat’l players natin dito.
Sila Muse; and other nat’l player na binabawas daw umano ang kanilang allowance ( hindi suweldo tawag dun) ay may pag kukulang din. Hindi sila dapat pumayag sa ganun sistema dapat gumawa sila ng hakbang at mag reklamo sa kuna uukulan. Hindi yung ayaw na nilang mag laro kasi ganito ganyan ang ginawa sa kanila. Hindi nila kayang patunayan ang akusasyon nila. Kuha mo ? Conflict of interest yan. Dapat nag laro muna sila saka sila nag reklamo. Ang tingin ko kaya hindi sila nag laro ay dahil sa ibang dahilan, maaring conflict sa trabaho o iba pa.
I ask you about the seminar sa UP sabi mo kasi nanuduon ka; Wala ka naman din concrete na ebidensia na hindi maganda ang seminar. Okay naman sa akin ang opinion mo about sa nangyari doon pero hindi ako satisfied. Mas gusto ko ang sinabi ni Pete at talagang hinimay niya ang naganap.
Si Oskie nagkaroon ng pag kakamali nakaraan and I Guess nag pupumilit siyang tumayo to clean his mistakes and it’s good. Bantay pa rin tayo.
At bawasan mo na rin ang salitang ako ako at ako. Bilib ako sa iyo pero hindi ka pa rin malalim. Kasi madaling basahin ang nasa loob mo.
Nwei opinion ko lang yan pwede mo namang balewalain O pwede mong sagutin. Cheers…
@stalker
Hinde ko napanood yung laro pero medyo tama kutob ko, minsan hinde rin maganda ang paglaglag ng laro dahil ibaiba ang tao; yung iba yumayabang o lumalaki ulo pag maytinalong masmagaling.
Si Esposo ay hinde lang magaling pumalo, pati descarte sa laro magaling. Kaya kung talagang seryoso yun ay hinde bastabasta mananalo si Tormis, sa gulang palang ay malaki na lamang ni Esposo. Kilalangkilala ko laro nyan kasi ni isang bes sa tournament ay hinde ko tinalo yan
Busy na tao yan, kung may oras ay dapat lang na magawi si Sir Binag dun, wala namang masama sa pakay nya dahil sa ikabubuti ng pingpong. Hinde kailangan gawin yan kung hinde iniipit ni Angpin ang tatap, dahil sa politics ay apektado tayo.
Si Binay ay tatakbo sa darating na eleksyon. Pagnanalo sya, ano ang magyayari sa Makati TT at kena Aguinalde? Baka naman gulohin ang TATAP kasi may sarili syang TT group.
i dont think kelangan manggulo ni coach gigi sa tatap to bring changes. hindi sya ganung tao. marami pa rin sususporta sa makati TT kahit wla na si mayor binay sa makati
also with mayor binay. he and cojuangco are friends
both Glenn Rodriguez and Julius Esposo ay tinalo ni Tormis (lefty) sa 3rd ball attack, BH long serve ke Glenn at FH short serve ke Julius.
http://www.youtube.com/user/butchsor#p/u/3/5jMTu7FoApI
http://www.youtube.com/user/butchsor#p/u/0/-lwk33zeGH4
@yogi_bear
Hinde si Gigi ang sinasabi kong manggugulo, tinitignan ko lang ang side ng politiko.
Stalker, magsasalita muna ako ng sariling wika natin para maintindihan mo ng mabuti ang mga isusulat ko…Pakibasa uli ng maraming beses ang mga naisulat ko dito sa forum mula’t simula pa lalo na yong huli, dahil pakiramdam ko mali ang interpretasyon mo at kung anong haka-haka ang nakapasok sa bakante mong utak at pagiisip. Matanong nga kita bago ang lahat, Ano ba ang naging contribusyon mo sa Philippine TT ha? maliban sa isang manglalaro? Nasaan ka ba ngayon? Nasa ibang bansa diba?Iniwan mo ang Philippine Table Tennis para sa sarili mong kapakanan. Kung tunay mong minahal ang sport na ito, aba! dapat hindi mo ito tinalikuran at sana nakatulong ka pa sa pag-unlad nito. Dalawang taon kang tumanggap ng monthly allowance o stipid o sweldo sa ating gobyerno para lumahok sa SEAG 2007, ano ang ginawa mo ha? umalis ka papuntang US bago mag Thailand SEAG at trinaydor mo ang TATAP community, ang bansa natin, lalo na ang mga taxpayers ng pilipinas, katulad ko na nagbigay sayo ng pera ng dalawang taon. Ngayon, sino ang bulgar at sobrang mahangin ang utak? Bubot ka pa nga stalker, at napakahinog pa rin ng isip para sumabak sa ganitong usapin lalo na pag mali ang mga hinala mo at mga bintang patungkol dito. Opinyon ko ito at wala kang karapatan baguhin ang ibig kung sabihin sa mga nailathala ko para gumawa ng sarili mong maling interpretasyon. Ang tindi mong magsalita tsong:
Sino ang manok? at ako namumulitika? kanino at kailan? Alam mo ba ang mga pinagsasabi mo? Alam mo ba ang ibig sabihin ng “Mud slinging?” Huwag na huwag kang mag-akusa ng hindi mo alam at mapapahiya ka lang. Sino nga ba ang hindi makakakilala kay Julius Esposo? matagal na player na iyan sa national team. Ang swapang mo naman magsalita na walang bearing ang laro ni Julius vs Tormis..ginawa lang niyang magpatalo upang pasikatin lang ang batang Tormis? sabi mo rin na nilaglag ni Glen ang laro niya vs Tormis? Aba! dapat may karapatan magalit ang Huaching boss nila dahil nilalaglag pala ang mga laro ng mga players niya, ganon ba Stalker? Kung ganito ang paniwala mo kung bakit natalo Sina Esposo at Glen kay Tormis, hindi pala karapatdapat maging national players ang mga manglalarong naglalaglag ng laro o matches. Hindi magandang asal ito ng sino mang national athlete. Kagalang-galang ang mga atletang pinoy at dapat wagas sila makipaglaban kanino man. Sa isang banda, you are underestimating the capabilities of the underdog Tormis, bakit? ibig sabihin, maganda ang pagensayo ng batang ito. He was able to upset the two players definitely. Dapat pa nga hangaan natin siya sa kanyang magandang laro sa tournament na iyon. Napaka selfish mo Stalker, wala kang budhi para insultuhin si Tormis. Tumigil ka sa kadadada at wala ka doon sa tournament, hindi mo nakita ang tunay na laro. Your pronouncement that our national team for Laos SEAG is well trained and prepared contradicts my own assessment and it showed very well in this Huaching tournament. Noong panahon pa ng Gintong Alay program, ang mga national team players then, were unbeatable ng mga nasa labas na mga manglalaro ng pingpong, dahil ensayado sila palagi. Now, I can say it again and again na kawawa ang mga players para sa SEAG, dahil walang magandang programa sa training ang TATAP at yong coach nila, lalong-lalo na na wala pang logistics na naibibigay hanggang ngayon. Ito ang ibig kong sabihin at tinutumbok ng post ko Stalker at ilagay mo ito sa kukuti mo para hindi ka makapanlait ng mga tao. Bakit hindi mo tawagan isa-isa ang mga players for SEAG at tanungin mo sila kung preparado naba sila training wise, logistics wise, mental and psychological wise, etc. etc.
Huwag ka masyadong bilib sa sarili mo Stalker, kung saan ka man ngayon hindi ka mapapansin diyan sa USA sa larangan ng pingping. Pilipinas lang ang pwede mo ere-present at wala ng iba. Kung ako ang TATAP, hindi ka na dapat tanggapin pa para maging national player uli dito sa bansa mong sinilangan. You should be banned from the national team dahil sa ginawa mong hindi paglaro sa 2007 SEAG. Ibalik mo rin ang pera na nakuha sa inang bayan. Pera namin iyon, galing sa aming mga taxpayers … Please lang, huwag kang banat ng banat dito sa forum na ito kung unfounded at below the belt remarks lang ang ipinupukol mo sa inyong lingkod.
Harry, You don’t know Mayor Binay personally so its premature for you to make comments re his being a political man and a sports man at the same time. In case you don’t know yet, Mayor Binay himself is a pingpong player and a pingpong enthusiast or pingpong fanatic in his own right. Wala pa tayo sa mundo ng TT he was already visibly playing and helping the sport. Wala sa vocabulary ng taong ito ang manggulo if that is what you are driving at. Makati has Sports Programs in placed, not only in table tennis but almost all sports. Coach Aguinalde is the man behind pingpong in Makati City. Maybe If we ask the mayor who is the point person of TT in Makati, he will say “GIGI AGUINALDE” without hesitation, ibig sabihin the mayor doesn’t make pakialam sa mga sports program instead he supports without a doubt, without a question, and without hesitation. Let us just refrain from mentioning personalities na walang kinalaman sa usapin na ito.
Inumpisahan mo ito stalker, hindi kita uurungan at pawang katotohanan lang ang sasabihin at ilalahad ko sagot sa mga maling interpretasyon mo.
Ang allowance, stipend, token, “sweldo” sa layman’s term na ibinibigay ng PSC para sa mga athletes ay nanggaling sa taxpayers money.
Si Binay ay tatakbo sa darating na eleksyon. Pagnanalo sya, ano ang magyayari sa Makati TT at kena Aguinalde? Baka naman gulohin ang TATAP kasi may sarili syang TT group.
Harry, your above post is so obvious that you are referring to Coach Aguinalde. I agree with you yogi_bear that this former national coach will not in any way do such a stupid thing to destabilize the association he had served for many many years. Its a fact that TATAP officials failed to protect the welfare of its national athletes as well as the organization.
Be consistent in your stand (paninindigan) stalker, huwag pabago-bago. para ka bang sala sa lamig, sala sa init.
Based on the national tryouts in Ateneo last month, the top 3 of the men’s team are Valle, Ting, and Esposo. Kung tatlo lang ang makakasama and will be funded, sino kaya ang ipapadala ng TATAP? obvious ba? If I were TATAP, I will send all the players who made it to top 5 both in men’s and the distaff side para fair and square.
Guys, Col. Hawthorne Binag is also a pingpong player:;)
http://www.youtube.com/user/butchsor#p/u/3/67OMr5gyYFY
i agree with their sentiments though. the game was really dropped by julius since sa layo ng agwat ng level ng 2 players how much more experience.. it is close to impossible na matalo ni tormis si esposo as of now.
Butch, ano naman ang connection ng posting mo sa issues na pinaguusapan dito sa thread na ito ha? Well,the more na dapat sana napatakbo ni Mr. Binag ang TATAP ng mabuti kasi pingpong player pala siya…eh dapat nasa dugo na niya ang sport na ito , pero ano ba ang nangyari instead? He left the association in the hands of his VP and the cohorts company. This is the truth ang nothing but the truth. Reports are reaching my desk that these men in uniforms are inching each other’s shoulders so to speak. Thanks anyway to Harry’s forum that TATAP officials are up and about nowadays. Sa totoo lang matagal naging dormant ang leadership ni col. binag sa TATAP. Though this maybe late, but as the saying goes “Better Late than Never) Magpakatotoo lang tayong lahat please lang, unloose everything out of the chest kasi truth will always come out no matter what, and the only thing that will set everyone free is truth, KATOTOHANAN at pawang katotohanan lang. Wala akong dapat katakutan sa mundong ito kasi lahat ng ilinalahad ko ay kaya kong patunayan.
Guys, here’s a story when we waited for the Awarding ceremony last Sunday:
Jason Rodriguez: “Ako? nde ako patatalo ke Dan-dan bahala na syang umiyak after the game”. Ayokong mangyari ulit sakin nang natalo ako ke Nico Cruz when he was still a kid. Inalaska ako nang kapatid kong si Glenn “ano? talo ka nang bata? after a year si Glenn naman tinalo ni Nico. Here comes Jhong Ortalla, ha..ha..ha.. talo kayong dalawa nang bata? after a year si Jhong naman ang tinalo ni Nico.
Glenn Rodriguez: “Noong bumisita ako sa Manila this month after the Jawad Cup, inalaska ako ni Julius, ano? talo ka nang bata?”
Jhong Ortalla said, before going to the center pingpong table during the team event championship against Esposo… ” baka gusto nyung kunin si Dan Tormis to coach Julius?”
Watch-out Jhong!
lesson learned: DO NOT UNDERSTIMATE the kids.
@masusan: Politics and Sports will not mix… sports na lang pag-usapan natin mabuti pa…LOL.
tama ka dyan butch. hahaha at kung talo, talo. wag na marami excuse. hahaha
@masusan:
Unang una huwag kang mapikon, nag bibigay tayo ng ating opinion ayon sa mga nakasulat dito sa thread. Kaya easy ka lang. Sagutin mo okay lang, wag na tayong mag taasan pa, Yung opinion mo tinatalakay ko at ang opinion ko pwede mo rin edebate. At lalong hindi ko binabago ang opinion mo. Opinion mo ayan at hindi ko inaalis bagkus ay ginagalang ko ito ngunit pwede ko itong edebate. Upang sukatin ang mga sinasabi mo.
Umandar na naman ang yabang mo na mag tanong kung ano ang nagawa kong contribution. Kung sagutin kita na wala akong nagawa maliban sa kastiguhin ko ang sa tingin kong maling gawa ng mga kina uukulan. Tanggap mo na ba iyon ? Kung tanggap mo mas mabuti kung hindi, pag debatehan natin. Hindi yung kung san saan napupunta ang usapan.
Nasan na ako ? HUWAG MO NG TANUNGIN, PWEDE BA
Nasa ibang bansa di ba? EWAN KO SA IYO.
Iniwang mo ang Phil Table tennis para sa iyong kapakanan. HINDI
Kung tunay mong mahal ang table tennis dapat hindi mo ito tinalikuran para nakatulong ka pa sa pag unlad nito. IKAW LANG ANG MAY SABI NIYAN.
Dalawang taon kang tumanggap ng monthly allowance o stipen o sweldo para lumahok sa SEAG 07. SINUNGALING KA.
Umalis ka pumunta ka ng US bago mag Thailand SEAG. LALO KANG NAGING SINUNGALING.
Trinaydor mo ang TATAP community at ang bansa natin. SOBRANG SINUNGALING KA TALAGA AT NANG HUHULA KA LANG.
May mga punto ang ibang sagot mo sa thread natural lang na umayon ako sa sinabi mo pero pag papuntang buwan na ang usapan Huwag naman. Kung may alam ka pang baho ang TATAP ilabas mo at himayin natin dito. Pwede tayong mag bigay ng suhestiyon O opinion pero hindi tayo pwedeng mag dikta.
Iyong tungkol sa Nat’l player natin ikaw na ang mag tanong kilala mo naman sila di ba ?
Kaya naka upset ang mga bata in that TT tournament ay sa dahilan na walang training naman talaga ang mga national players natin ngayon. As in hindi sila handa para sa Laos SEAG katulad ng paghanda nila noong 2005 SEAG. They were physically, spiritually and emotionally prepared to compete that time than now.( sasambat ka pa rin ba stalker at hindi naniniwala na walang preparation ang national TT team ngayon para sa Laos SEAG?) Mahirap paniwalaan ng TT community na ang isang less experience at batang player ay makakatalo ng isang national team member kaya nagkaroon ng mga reactions. Kaya ikaw stalker kapag sumali ka dito sa tournament pihado matatalo ka rin. Wala ka na rin practice diyan unless dayuhin mo ang TT gym. Alam ko ang buhay diyan sa mundo ng pulang mansanas. Life there is not a bed full of roses so to speak. Magpakatotoo ka, mas maganda ang buhay dito sa Pilipinas kaysa diyan. I can’t even sell my property there dahil nag down ang economy at sobrang mura ang real state value para magbenta. Sa susunod piliin mo ang taong babanatan mo ha? at mag-isip ka ng malalim and do your homework well. bumira ka pa uli at maglalabasan ang mga hindi mo inaakala na alam ko tungkol sa iyo. I have made my research on you already. So be careful.
Stalker, sino kaya maniniwala sa iyo ngayon, ni hindi mo nga ma sagot ang mga binitiwan kong mga salita tungkol sa iyo maliban sa salitang “SINUNGALING AKO” hahahahahaha! Ako pa ang sinungaling? what a poor defense mechanism. maniniwala kaya ang TT community na hindi totoo ang mga ginawa mo ha? I will surely understand your situation, you couldn’t answer me straight to the point. TRUTH HURTS ano? how does it feel? hahahahaha! sapok ka hanggang buto. I rest my case… wala ka palang kwentang kausap. Tiklop ka kaagad. Huwag ka nang lumayo ng usapan nakakabagot ka. GUILTY!!!!!! LOL
@masusan
I am not referring to Gigi, wala syang matindeng power para sa ganong move. Kung sino ka man ay sigurado akong maskilala ko si Gigi kesa sa pagkakilala mo sa kanya, exception lang kung relative, asawa o boyfriend mo sya. Hinde ko kilala si Binay pero sa bansa natin ay maraming gulo dahil sa politika kaya abangan na lang natin after election. It is either mabago ang tatap o mawala si Angpin.
Lagi mong binabanggit na “Harry’s forum”, ilang bes ko na pinost na ako nga ang owner pero tinuturing ko na hinde ito sa akin kundi ay sa atin lahat. Matagal ko nang sinara to kung wala kayo.
Pwede na bang tawagin na “Upset of the year, Tormis d Esposo!”
@harry: siguro naman ngayon kilala mo na si masusan. Siya ang kapatid ni Gigi Aguinalde na may anak na swimmer. Hindi na siya maingay dahil ang kapatid niya naka pasok na sa TATAP na dati ay sinusuka niya. Ngayon masusan bakit hindi ka na maingay sa mga ginagawa ng tatap ?
@harry: OK ang Tormis d Esposo! last year kasi ang tawag ke Jhong Ortalla was 10-4.
Dan-dan Tormis started pingpong when he was 4 or 5 years old naging “batang pinoy” when he was in grade one. Ma-utak na rin maglaro dahil sa maraming exposure nya sa tournaments local and international. Always present in the Palaro from grade school until now in high school. Undefeated MILO champion nang Visayas…and one more thing, me “amulet”!
:):)
@ryan: yan ang matamlay na sabi ni Esposo after the game when he returned back his racket in the bench.
@masusan: mas malakas ngayon si Richard Gonzales compare sa mga previous tournaments na napanood ko. Lalong gumagaling habang tumatanda!
One thing for sure that everybody admired Masusan’s inputs about TATAPnP but I guess very few admired about his campaign for Gigi Aguinalde. Well its understandable for him coz he’s from Makati.
After a careful perusal of his statements here, I found several inconsistencies and hearsay statements that does not truly reflect or shall I say have no factual bases. One typical example is by accusing stalker to be that former top national player who is now based in the red apple. That is purely conjectural without any basis. Another one is when he accused the current national coach to be receiving compensation/allowance/etc both as a player and as a coach at the same time. If its really true, then he could have at least provided us a scanned copy or a link from PSC.
Accusing anyone is very easy but to proved it is another story.
@masusan,
Medyo makulit ka rin hehe, at nag yabang na naman. May bahay ka kamo sa America at hindi mo mabenta ? Ang yabang talaga hehehe….
Tapos I rest my case agad. Wahhhhh ang daya ! suko agad . Ang pamasahe mula sa amin hanggang cubao 12 pesos lang bus yan ha. Mag mula sa tapat ng mercury hanggang amoranto 7 pesos lang. Wala akong car kaya cadilac lang ako hehe. May bayad na 20 pesos pag naglaro ako sa amoranto. 40 pesos naman pag sa las pinas ako nag laro. Sumali na ako sa winner take all sa Las Pinas lagi nga lang talo. Naka laro na rin ako sa Dasmarinas cavite, Sa rancho hindi ko pa nalaruan pero nakilala ko na si jeco ang malupit na player ng Amoranto pero lagi siyang absent ewan ko kung bakit. Maganda ang palabas sa sinehan sa SM, Palabas pa rin ang astro boy. Now paano mong nasabi nasa US ako ? Bumaha ng ondoy lumubog ang Marikina, cainta, pasig, some part of quezon city, paranyaque, part in laguna. Himala hindi gaano tinamaan ang malabon. Lumubog din ang espanya. Pati na rin ang Underpass sa Manila city hall at sa quiapo. Ano pa ang gusto mong patunayan.
Tandaan mo hindi masamang mag yabang pero dapat patunayan mo ang niyayabang mo. Pag hindi mo nagawa yan wala ng maniniwala sa iyo. Pwede kong sabihin sau kung anong bill board meron sa edsa sabihin mo lang kung anong kanto hehehehe. Ikaw talaga MASUSAN BOLERA !
karamihan dito sa mga nagcocoment dito ay sa ikabubuti ng administration natin,sana huwag na natin akusahan ang personal ng isang tao.past is past,lets all move forward guys…
kahit hindi preparado ang phil. team ngayon taon sa seag. i hope bigyan niyo sana kami ng moral support kahit papano,lahat naman kami siguro kilala niyo na at sa nakikita ko po ay nag eensayo din kaming lahat ng mabuti pero syempre hindi tayo magsasalita ng tapos lalong lalo na malalakas po ang mga kalaban natin sa seag.
Grandmaster, review all my posts please, I never said that the present national coach receives allowance from PSC both as a coach and a player. This is an understatement and unfounded comment. What hearsay are you talking about? hearsay is synonymous to gossip, I’m sorry, I don’t engage in this. What I said was he competed in the 2005 SEAG at inagawan ng laro ang kanyang player. Wasn’t this a stupid move? I’m positive and 500% sure he played during the last Thailand SEAG leaving one of the national players sitting in an unfamiliar corner. Is he allowed to play? who gave him the permission and the right to do so? I stand by what I have said and stated. Who is telling the truth and who is not? You know, I know, God knows. One day all of these hulabalu about TATAP will be unearthed and all of those guilty and liars will be eating and digesting their own words…Watch out!
Hindi ka lang Stalker, Gala ka rin pala…Sabagay ganoon talaga ang trabaho ng stalker, Taxi driver…If I were you, don’t read my posts anymore kasi mali talaga ang pag-unawa mo sa mga naisusulat ko. You are an inconsistent reader, kung sa politika ka pa, pabago-bago ka ng partido. I rest my case with you kasi we are not on the same wavelength of thinking, in other words hindi tayo nagkakaintindihan. you interpreted my post differently and negatively. para bang I’m going to Laguna you are going to Bulacan. Talk to someone else, kaya end of my case…Period. There is no issue to talk about, don’t lie…
I don’t campaign for coach Aguinalde, Is he running for a position in politics? Based on your post, it seems you don’t like him, why? don’t speak for other people too, what made you say that very few people admired for the good things I’ve said for this coach? Bakit? masama ba magsabi ng opinion at sa totoo lang? I’m not from Makati but I believe in his convictions for this sport. Napakatotoong tao so to speak. Walang yabang kahit may sinabi sa buhay. A coach is a role model to his players, papano naman ako rerespeto ng isang coach na ang ginagawa ay hindi karesperespeto ha? Tell me? If you call it a campaign which to me is not, then so be it…It’s not a big deal, is it? We are all entitled to our own choice. By the way, Bakit nga pala nawala si coach Aguinalde sa TATAP as a national coach? did he resign? or removed (by whom?) without a cause or reason? what about coach Lauro? did he resign or was removed too? what about coach Palermo? did he resign? or is he still coaching and receiving his allowance as a national coach? It’s so easy to check this out with PSC…
Kakosa, thank you for your honesty and bravery for coming out and telling the TT community that your team is not prepared this year for Laos SEAG. O ayan Stalker, it came from the # 2 table tennis player of the national team na. I hope this will serve as an eye opener or a lesson for TATAP officials to change their old ways of running the association. Maawa naman kayo sa mga players, sila pa ang gumagastos sa training nila at exposure to tournaments na dapat responsibilities ninyo. Hay Naku…… Anyway, Good luck to you Kakosa in Laos. We will pray for all of you. By the way, how many are going among those who tried out and qualified for SEAG?
Who is being accused and who is accusing who sa post mo? about what? let us not tolerate wrongdoings kakosa, because people will never learn.
mga pare, pano kayo paniniwalaan nga mga tao dito kung kayoy nagtatago sa inyung screen name? kung talagang you stand in your grounds at “I stand by what I have said and stated”, kung kayo ay totoong tao at sincere sa mga sinasabi nyo at kayo hindi duwag (nagtatago lang sa screen name), magpa kilala kayo. ang iingay nyo!
ito si ako:
http://www.tatapx.org/gallery/v/membergallery/ryanp/
pero kung hindi mo kaya, ping pong nalang pag usapan natin. oks?
@ryanp: it is much better to use screennames para “bibo” naman! LOL. I could use another screen name that can not be traced also…
Masusan,
You said,
“Huwag ka masyadong bilib sa sarili mo Stalker, kung saan ka man ngayon hindi ka mapapansin diyan sa USA sa larangan ng pingping. Pilipinas lang ang pwede mo ere-present at wala ng iba. Kung ako ang TATAP, hindi ka na dapat tanggapin pa para maging national player uli dito sa bansa mong sinilangan. You should be banned from the national team dahil sa ginawa mong hindi paglaro sa 2007 SEAG. Ibalik mo rin ang pera na nakuha sa inang bayan. Pera namin iyon, galing sa aming mga taxpayers … Please lang, huwag kang banat ng banat dito sa forum na ito kung unfounded at below the belt remarks lang ang ipinupukol mo sa inyong lingkod. ”
“Alam ko ang buhay diyan sa mundo ng pulang mansanas. Life there is not a bed full of roses so to speak. Magpakatotoo ka, mas maganda ang buhay dito sa Pilipinas kaysa diyan. I can’t even sell my property there dahil nag down ang economy at sobrang mura ang real state value para magbenta. Sa susunod piliin mo ang taong babanatan mo ha? at mag-isip ka ng malalim and do your homework well. bumira ka pa uli at maglalabasan ang mga hindi mo inaakala na alam ko tungkol sa iyo. I have made my research on you already. So be careful.”
Based on your post ako yung tinutukoy mo ( Jon Ebuen ).
First of all, ano naman kinalaman ko sa topic na ito? eh hindi ko nga alam na may mga issues na ganito kung hindi lang ako na sabihan ng kakilala ko.
Second, hindi ko ninakaw ang pera mo at pera ng mga tax payers sa atin, binigay ko yung service ko sa pilipinas more than sa nakukuha kong monthly allowance ever since and up to now nag sserve pa din ako sa pilipinas in my own simple way, kung kilala mo talaga ako at nag research ka tungkol sa akin then malalaman mo yun.
Lastly, sabi ni ryanp mag pakilala tayo dito at sabi mo din kilalanin ko kung sino ang binabangga ko, Ok lang ba sayo kung mag pakilala ka din?
Ano pa ba gusto kong sabihin dito, sa dami nakalimutan ko na. ay! alam ko na, yung kay Julius at kung sino man yung bata na tumalo sa kanya, kung talo sya! talo sya! end of story. pero kung sino man ang naniniwala na talagang talo si Julius dun sa bata na yun, at dun sa mga naniniwala na hinulog ni Julius yung match, why dont you just let them play again at lagyan nyo ng pusta para matapos na yung usapan. Ganun lang naman yun eh. Like minimum of 20 or 50 thou. But before you do the match, paalam nyo din sakin para malagay ko yung side bet ko. Umpisahan mo na butch kung mag kano taya mo dun sa bata?
JE
@masusan,
Lahat ng tao po nagkakamali lalo na kung siya po ay kapos sa pangangailangan,bihira sa atin dito sa TT community ang nabiyaya ng Diyos ng maaga.
Just like coach Oskie and Jon Ebuen,may narinig din po akong kwento sa kanila about there negative things but im very sure na inaayos nila ito paunti unti tulad ng pagtutulong sa TT community.
Sa Hao Chin tournament,namigay po sila ng lamesa sa mga kapos palad na mga kalapit probinsiya natin dito sa Manila held by coach Oskie at mga goma din po namigay din po sila.
Si Jon Ebuen naman,hindi tumigil sa paglalaro jan sa US at hanggang ngayon po ay nagchachampion pa siya sa mga tournament jan sa US.
Kung may pangit noon ,importante maganda po sa ngayon ang pinapakita nila at malamang gaganda pa lalo.
Ang masaklap lang ay yung pangit ngayon sa administration natin ay gumanda po sana para magkaroon ng pagbabago,naniniwala po ako na hindi lahat ng tao ay masama.kadalasan ay nagkataon lang at wala magawa o kaya walang kakayahan kumontra.
tungkol naman sa pagpunta sa Laos,hanggat walang pinopost ang Tatap dito no comment muna ha kasi ayaw ko masaktan.he,he…
Cheers to all pongers…
Puwede po bang makisawsaw? Sa aking papanaw I totally agree na mas maganda talaga kung kilala ng lahat ng mga members ang isat-isa at hindi lang po si Butch, Harry and Yogi Bear, Diotay, Pete and Oskie ang talagang kilala na. Simulan ko na po. Ako po si George Sanchez from California. Eto po ang mensahe ko:
Sa tingin ko naman maganda ang hangarin ni Masusan according to his previous posts. Gusto po niyang maging maayos ang TATAP as a whole. Kailangan po niya ng support to fulfill his intention. However, I realy think that He should introduce himself muna sa mga readers so that he can earn the respect from everyone. This is called INTEGRITY AND CREDIBILITY. But until then I’m still 50-50 in supporting him.
As far as Tormis and Esposo bet kung matuloy man I will some money on Esposo, no disrespect to Tormis who is I believe a very promising kid. Just let me know kung tuloy. (Sana po huwag sabihin kay Dan Tormis na may malaking pustahan para hindi siya nerbiyosin at mailabas niya ang laro niya).
As far as Gigi Aguinalde is concern I heard some rumors from his players back in 2005 when I was in Manila for the first time that whenever there’s training sessions for the 2005 SEAG preparation he wasn’t always there for them but rather socializing with women instead of focusing on his players’ developments. How true is this? Maybe Masusan has no idea about it? Or maybe he knows about it but he sugar coats it?
Lastly, let’s support our National players, like Kakosa said, the best way we can na lang. Tama na po yung sisihan, turuan, yabangan, salita lang at walang action, etc. I would like to see Masusan start his campaign for the betterment of TT in the Philippines IN REAL ACTION and LEAD BY TRUE EXAMPLES and NOT JUST WORDS. Revealing his true identity is a very good start.
sir george rumors are just rumors unless proven. if totoo yung allegations about coach aguinalde bakit nanalo sila ng medals nung 2005 if pabaya syang klaseng coach??
Just FYI, hinde na magpopost ang TATAP dito dahil hinde na naman daw nakakatulong ang tatapx. Kaya visit tatap.ph regularly
Masama ata binabalak nyo kasi under age si Tormis, pero kung sakali man ay tataya din ako
hindi talaga nakakatulong ang tatapx….. sa gusto nilang kalokohan hehehehe
Anak nang pating, ba’t nauwi sa pustahan ang usapan at ang laki pa nang minimum bet–isang taon ko yung SSS Disability pension ah? Kelan ang rematch? I want Jeje Marcelino to be the coach of Dan Tormis during the rematch kung papayag si coach Jessica Jawad?
For me, better not to reveal who masusan is, IMHO lang. Me nakakilala naman sa kanya dito eh…
Hinde nga nagpo-post ang TATAP pero naninilip lang…LOL.
“Visit tatap.ph regularly at lalangawin ka lang!” or baka mumultohin ka lang?
butch i-donate na lang nila ang pusta para pa rehab ng likod mo hehehe
hey, nice idea yogi!…hehehe…kewl at pabor sakin
@Masusan
Dapat pakilala ka muna at saka ka mag salita. Sa mga sinulat mo mukha namang kagalang galang ka. Kung may gusto kang paratingin dito huwag mo naman kaming sagasaan. At alam kong wala kaming atraso sa iyo at kanino man. Nag serbisyo ang anak ko bilang atleta ng Pilipinas sa loob ng kung ilang taon at naka pag bigay naman din ng karangalan para sa bansa. Natural lang naman ng gumawa siya ng pansariling paraan para mabuhay at sa tingin ko wala naman kaming sinagasaan.
Mga kPONGERS, Hinay hinay lang po tau, nagkakapersonalan na po tau mga pare ko… let us all discuss things maturely. focus po tayo sa REAL problems.. kasi kung tayo tayo ang mag aaway away, tiyak na matutuwa ang TOTOONG kaaway nating lahat, ang katiwalian, kurapsyon, at kung anu ano pang kabulastugan para sa ikakaBUTI ng ADMINISTRASYON natin.
TOTOO nga bang binabawasan ang ALLOWANCES ng mga players natin… matagal na po itong issue na ito. marami na rin akong naringang sentimyentong ito…kahit dun sa mga pinamatitiising players natin problemado dito:
a) AKUSASYON
b) ALIGASYON
c) KATOTOHANAN
Ang kasagutan, wala sa ating mga kamay, na kay Col Binag ang desisyon kung gusto nyang imbestigahan ito. Pero, Para sa aking opinyon, tama ang MATANDANG KASABIHANG “kung walang usok, walang apoy”.
at Muli, sa aking opinyon, ang pag gamit ng CODENAME ay hindi kaduwagan, o kabawasan ng credibility o di kaya ay pag iwas sa katotohanan. Matagal na pong nakagawian ang paggamit ng CODE NAME, A.K.A, or ALYAS…Pati po ang mga pambansang bayani hindi lang dito sa Pilipinas, pati na sa buong mundo ay ginawa na ito. Ito ay nagsisilbing proteksyon, nagbibigay ng misteryo, meron ding iba na nakakadama n mas komportable sila sa ganitong paraan. It’s personal call, choice, decision & priviledge whether to expose yourself or not. And everybody should respect it. After all, This is a mature site for All the Ping Pong Fanatics.
Let us Focus to OUR Goal, A brigther & TRUTHFUL Future for TATAP and so our RP TT TEAM.
GOD Bless TATAP! GOD Bless the Philippines!
@butch
Kilala mo pala si masusan paki pm mo na lang kung sino ito.
thanks
Achievements, accomplishments, developments, results on competition of players are the basis how good a coach is. Yogi_bear ang galing mong mag analyze sa sinabi ni Mr. G. Sanchez re coach Aguinalde. Bakit nga naman nagka medal ang players niya in the 2005 SEAG kung pabaya siya? Rumors or tsismis Mr. Sanchez ay hindi dapat paniwalaan, It only destroys one’s being and integrity. Wala kasi masilip na shortcomings si coach Aguinalde kaya gagawan nalang ng maling storya..Don’t accuse me of sugar coating what? who? Coach Aguinalde is a man of integrity no doubt about it kaya I don’t listen to rumors and tsismis.
What you see in me is what you get. I am not hiding from anyone in this forum in fact I even published my phone number in case you want to reach me. Sino kaya ang nagtatago sa lungga ngayon? Pag kayo ang nabubuko, biglang gagawa kayo ng ibang account name. lumang tugtugin na iyan. Also, never use the account of other people in this forum.
Bakit naman ginawa niyo pang PAGCOR o pasugalan ang forum na ito…This is a sports forum and gambling has no place here. As for me lahat ng mga sinabi ko, I stand by it. I can’t simply edit facts nor ignore them.
ayus kung matuloy ito tormis vs esposo rematch. larga na to butch! hehehe ke tormis ang pusta ko. hehehe… GO TORMIS!
Boyang, sagutin mo nalang mga sinabi ko regarding your son head on. huwag yong “paawa” effect dahil kilala din kita. parang hindi bagay sa personalidad mo. Do not go around the bush to the rescue of your son. I stated facts kaya sagutin mo din ng maayos. Vincit Omnia Veritas…
Who started this ba? I just answered all accusations hurled at me. Consistency in all of my write ups and postings is the most important thing and have remained as such. Truth really hurts but what can I do? I am on its side…
@masusan
marami pong distractions ang nakapaligid sa iyo sir masusan at gusto po nila ibagsak po kayo.kahit po sa larangan ng table tennis kung mapapadala po kyo sa distraction lalong maaapektohan ang laro nyo at matatalo kyo.tagahanga nyo po ako masusan, binabasa ko po lahat ng thread at pinopost ninyo.nakita ko po ang malasakit po ninyo sa para sa ikabubuti ng TT po sa atin.ipagpatuloy nyo po ang pag matyag sa mga maling gawain ng mga kinakaukulan sa tatap.wag nyo na pong pansinin ung tumitira po sa inyo ng below the belt.nasa likod nyo po kmi at buong pusong sumusuporta po ang club namin sa inyo.marami pong salamat masusan sa totoong malasakit nyo at pagbigay nyo ng mahalagang oras para bantayan ang Philippine Table Tennis.mabuhay po kyo sir.God bless you
going back to tormis issue
kita ko naman maglaro ang bata – i admit magaling naman
expose sa abrod etc.
at ngayon adolescense na sya im sure pagaling ng pagaling yan
kaliwete pa ! oy hirap kalabanin kaliwete kung di ka sanay.
na feel ko yan klaseng ganyan feeling when i was young
the more ang kalaban ay may “title” – hala sige “banat ng banat ” as a matter of fact, dobol ang banat !
whats to lose? – di ba
kung talo so what? – bata lang naman sya di ba.
kung panalo – what an acomplishment.!!!! kulang nalang i broadcast sa radyo.!
anyway, yung ang usual mentality ng bata.
may adrenalin pumping ang bata. parang diesel kapag umandar ang makina nya. i can see it in his eyes nung nasa palarong pambansa me watching.
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well im sure “on the rise ” ang stardom nya i congratulate him.
ang mga nasa dating “nasa taas ” naman dapat dapat magingat.
maintain ang galing dapat.
kung ito ay “benta” – one is not fit to be a national team kung ganyan ang attitude.
maraming gustong tumarget ng nasa taas.
at ang pangalan ay nasa notebook nila im sure. one by one yan.
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palagay natin nakasilat or nakatsamba si tormis ngayon kay julius.
well , what a feat.
well perhaps tsamba ?
kung di convince e di – “ulitin”!!!! pusta or no pusta gusto mo i yutube pa ahahahah
but something is being shown here. – umasenso na sya – i mean tormis.
right attitude right skill. may ‘fighting spirit’ ang bata.
mas “totoo pa nga ang laro” ng bata if i were to ask
i agree to somebody here na nag mention na kung sana may tutuong training program lang ang mga national player natin, – di dapat nagkakaganito.
i jsut wonder, down the road. , mangyayari kaya ito sa “junior team” natin – i mean proper trainning , proper incentives. proper support. or still – ON YOUR OWN KAYO!!!! naku po!
kung may incentive na – like for exmaple. i pa train pa nga ang bata sa china like that. the program ( pero dapat tutuo lang ha ) ——– i sacrifice ko na ang palarong pambansa kasi so what! worthwhile naman talaga. !
pero kung ang “boat” ay uugok ugok. anytime baka mag bagyo at di kayanin . by your own gasoline, madaling mabutas ang bangka or iwanan ng kapitan dahil sa away away naku – to admit ——–yan ang dilemna me as a father. at bawal bumalik sa bangka ng” palarong pambansa ” walang “fallback ha ” ha.
ive posted comment about dep ed letter ngayon, para lang may konting reference sa sinasabi ko to this particular thread.
please mga kasama i meant well , kung may na hurt dito – sorry ha
walang “name calling” sana ha – wala akong kasalan sa mga tao dito. as far as i know. always peace naman ako. at di ko ginagawang hanap buhay ang table tennis ha.di ko kailangan mag hanap buhay ng ganyan- as a matter of fact abono pa nga kamo!!! pero okay lang.
pete
A very good point raised ka Pete.. Your own assessment on this issue is well taken. This is the truth and should therefore be taken well by the TATAP officials and the ever loyal blind people around them. These “WALANG PAKIALAM” officials of TATAP including the President (If you are in the military sir, this is command responsibility po)have been managing the association for so long.. yet, nothing happens, no new developments, no progress, no technology brought in for our sport to flourish, no logistics, TT community divided, no programs, players getting out of the national team. coaches terminated without cause, what else? name it “they have it”
Maraming salamat din venus_srive sa support niyo, nakakataba ng puso talaga. I assure you, I will not fail you… I have no hidden agenda, God knows of my honesty in this battle for truth. I will not stop what I am currently doing for the good of this sport, and if this is the only way I can awaken our TT officials of there shortcomings, negligence and insensitivity to the moans for reforms of this sport, then by all means, I will forever be of service to you and the entire TT populace. As I have said in the past, there is indeed strength in unity, pag nagkaisa lang tayo walang impossible sa lahat ng ating minimithi. Our dreams and wishes for our sport will just be within our reach. Napakadaling abutin ika nga.
No one can stop me from doing this, This is my freedom to do so…I have my own convictions, respect it as I respect yours. I know that truth hurts, kaya nga ako tinitira dahil may katotohanan at basis ang mga isinusulat ako. In all issues I have mentioned in my posts, wala pang sumagot ng matino sa akin point by point. If you noticed lahat nang mga sagot ay hindi tungkol sa issues raised kundi to malign my personality. Ganito talaga ang nangyayari kapag katotohanan ang ipinupukol mo sa madla. Alin ba sa mga naisulat ko ang walang katotohanan? tell me… By the way, bakit nawala bigla sa ere si stalker? dati mabilis pa sa als cuatro pag makasagot. Bigla din dumating si paradise at nagpakilala na siya si ebuen… biglang dumating din si boyang, tatay ni JE hahahaha! Bakit? read between the lines nalang. your guess is as good as mine, but none of them answered squarely my questions. God is the witness here, kung sino ang nagsasabi ng totoo at pawang katotohanan lang. To add to it more, Mr VV got mad of the disapperance act of Ebuen at 2007 SEAG..This is understably nakakapikon din talaga dahil nga naman 2 years niyang inalagaan at tumanggap ng PSC allowance tapos biglang naglaho lang down the drain. This is too painful to take so to speak.
Yogi_Bear,
Tama ka. Nagkaroon sila ng medal because of Gigi. I totally respect your opinion. That’s why I was asking if there was a truth to the rumor because I personally don’t know. However, since the topic is Gigi Aguinalde, let me ask you this if I may. What kind of Medal did we win? Correct me if I’m wrong we got Bronse? And we got bronse because of Gigi Aguinalde? Think about it. If you believe that Gigi is the orchestrator of a bronse medal award don’t you think that he could have done better than bronse? Silver maybe? We had the home field advantage, home crowd and Great coach!….and we settled for bronse?
The “rumor” issue was a question to clarify things. This is to support the other side of the story if proven true, not just focusing on the bright side according to Gigi’s fans. I myself is a fan of Gigi Aguinalde. He was here in California back in the early 90’s. He became friends with our members here. I know what his accomplishments were. I met him in the Training Center (Harrison Plaza at the time) back in October of 2005. I was there for 3 hours watching the National Team train. He showed up when the Nat’l players finished their training. He even gave me a ride to my Hotel together with Henberd Ortalla who was his assistant coach at that time and we had dinner. I even thought that Henberd Ortalla was the National Coach at that time since he was the one present throughout the training session and he was doing the job of a coach.
With all due respect to Gigi I believe that he was not the biggest driving force in achieving the Bronce Medal. The players themselves had a bigger part of achieving it. I even saw the video of the 2005 SEAG matches and everyone in the team were coaching everybody, not Gigi alone. They should have respected the authority of Gigi for being the National coach to be the only one to coach the players which is in the rules of ITTF, but they didn’t. What does that tell you? Does that mean that they respect the coach’s ability to coach? On the other hand why did Gigi let them coach each other? If you look back at the video when Julius Esposo, I believe, was playing in the team match almost everybody was coaching him. Again, does that mean the the players had the confidence in Gigi’s ability to coach alone?
The answer is NO. Why? Because they did not see Gigi as their coach. They did not see the GOOD EXAMPLE
Pogi, here are the facts that you need;
1. Bakit ako at tatay ko biglang susulpot dito, simple lang, eh ako pinariringgan mo eh, so syempre mag rrespond ako at sasabihin ko na hindi ako si stalker at nag kakamali ka. kung gusto mo tanong natin kay Harry kung ako yun?
2. Saka noong sinagot kita wala naman ako sinabing masama tungkol sa post mo ha, gusto mo pa ba sabihin ko na “i agree with you” diba implied na yun, but not to all, specially sa binitang mo sa akin na ako si stalker.
3. Umalis ako before Seagames, lahat ng tao sa tatap alam nila, nag paalam ako ng maayos sa kanila, kung galit si Sir Vic sakin, edi dapat hindi nya ako kinakausap or sinasagot kung kinakamusta ko sya, as a matter or fact dapat magkikita kami noong umuwi ako last july kaya lang naging busy ako that day, but im supposed to go to meet him and his wife.
4. So, kung ang player hindi nakasama sa Seagames dahil hindi sya umabot sa qualification ng psc or poc pero nakatanggap sya ng sahod for 2 years, ibig sabihin ba ninakaw nya ang tax payers money. eh paano kung last 2007 seagames hindi ako pinayagan ng poc or psc magagalit ka pa din ba? diba hindi din naman ako sigurado katulad ng iba.
5. At kung ako si stalker, bakit naman ako magagalit kay coach gigi, eh wala naman kaming masamang pinag samahan, as a matter of fact Ninang ko si Ate marj na kapatid ni coach gigi and to add to it, si coach gigi yung nag stand by sa side ko last 2005 seagames at naniwala sa akin when most of the national team wanted to petition me dahil madalas akong absent sa training because conflict sa schedule ng school ko. So, you see I have nothing against coacg gigi, minsan nga nag kkwentuhan pa kami pag nag kikita kami sa online.
6. Ito pa isa, kung ako ulit si stalker, sa ibang topic dito tinitira nya ang tatap nakipag away na nga sya kay devil boy diba? eh bakit ko naman titirahin ang tatap, eh lahat sila kaibigan ko sa loob at labas ng ping pong. it doesnt make sense kung bakit ko gagawin yun.. kaya nga ako hindi nakikialam kasi ayokong madamay. tapos ikaw naman nag lagay sa pangalan ko.
7. If you really research me, did you know that i went to world championship sa japan this year and represented Philippines by myself? Harry, coach oskie, at meron syang kasamang chinese guy (forgot his name) we’re with me. Do you know kung sino gumastos ng expenses ko? Sir, ako po. Did i asked psc to reimburse me? NOPE. Kung gagawin ko yun, edi lalabas ikaw pa may utang sakin as a tax payer.
8. Here’s my the final comment, i guess you really wanna hear it and maybe tataba ulit puso mo, katulad ng sabi mo kay venus… Sir, you mean well for TT people, i can see that but please stop dragging my name to your comments, i did nothing to you and to TATAP and to coach gigi and to tax payers money, i respect you all.
9. Also, kung sabihin ba ni owner/admin/harry na hindi ako si Stalker would you believe him? would you admit na mali ka and be man enough to do whats right?
I hope na establish ko yung facts na dapat kung sagutin. I’ll wait for your answer.
Yogi bear answer Mr. Sanchez first and I will tell him my opinion regarding his comments. I WAS PERSONALLY PRESENT DURING THE 2005 SEAG MATCHES. hindi hearsay, hindi angulo ng camera kundi nasa harap mismo ng mga naglalaro as in maganda ang place ko sa gallery at naririnig ko pa lahat ng mga sinasabi ng bawat isa sa team. Ako ay nakapunta din sa training nila bago mag SEAG. Julius Esposo is one player na akala alam lahat, isang player na umaakyat minsan sa ulo ang kutok sa katawan, kaya nga look at his background. On the other hand he is still a good trainable
player and can even win individual medals in international competitions if only he listens. bows down to authorities and follow and respect what he is taught about. RESPECT is the main ingredient na dapat matutunan ng bawat isa sa national team. Well ,Coach Aguinalde as the head coach of the national team plans out the program of training to be implemented by the assistant coach. A program does not only speak of the table training marami po iyan. Ang isang coach na matino ay hindi dapat pumunta sa training ng walang plano kung ano ang gagawin. I have already outlined the role and responsibilities of a good coach in my previous posts, read it Mr. Sanchez please.. More of my brains on this issue after yogi_bear’s answer.
Buti nga at nagka medal ang national team natin after so many years of waiting. Don’t ask for more, maybe if there was continuity sa program na iyon ni Coach Aguinalde baka hindi lang sana silver o bronze ang masusungkit natin ngayon. You can’t make an Olympian overnight, sir…. Coach Aguinalde sana sumagot po kayo dito sa forum na ito, ikaw ay isang player na may disiplina noong naglalaro ka pa.
I beg to disagree with you sir george, the coach is the driving force of any team for that matter. Bakit mas magaling ang mga laro ng national team players noon time ni coach Gigi kaysa ngayon under H. Ortalla. oh! may training nga ba sila ngayon? saan? baka kanya-kanyang training at kanya-kanyang gastos sa training.
Hindi kami masyado nagkikita ni coach Aguinalde ngayon than before, but I can call him and ask his opinion. Tama kayo sir George, mabait si Coach Aguinalde. kaya nga tinatanong ko dito sa forum kung nag resign nga ba siya o tinanggal sa team kasi hindi siya kabaro ng mga nagpapatakbo ng TATAP ngayon. nakakahiya kasi tawagan siya para lang tanungin ito.
about the absent rumors i dont think its true. may kakilala akong mga rp team tinatanong ko if totoo ito and sabi nila hindi. si coach gigi andun araw2x sa practice nila at sabay sila kahit kumain.
sir george, please bigyan mo ko ng date in the history of the philippines sa sea games na ganung medals pinanalo natin? so ibig sabihin, dahil maganda ang programs natin gold na agad tayo? you are questioning the kind of medals and the moral support dahil dito na held sa manila di ba? so yung singapore sa team events tatalunin na natin agad ganun? pano naman ang indonesia?
in what way na hindi naging good example si coach gigi? mas kilala ko si coach gigi kesa sa yo and you’re statements about being not the good example and hindi respectable don’t hold any ground.
Masusan,
Likewise, I tend to disagree with you and stand on my belief.
Based on your comments regarding the “plan of the program” of a coach to have the assistant coach implement the said “plan”, does this mean that if you’re one of the national players in the team you have the full respect for the coach who is not present in your training? Is this part of the said “plan of the program” that the coach will not be present in the training and that the assistant coach will be in charge? Can you please name a team sport that practices this type of a program.
This is why, I strongly believe, players lose their respect for their coach.
As a student would you still continue attending a class to where the teacher is not present and shows up right before over class is over and that the “assistant teacher” is there to carry on with the lecture? Would you still have confidence and respect for that teacher?
Yan lang po ang opinion ko about the Gigi Aguinalde as a coach of the National Team that I have witnessed in the past. I have nothing against him as a person. Talagang alam kong mabait yan as I mentioned in my last post when we met and had dinner. I am just expressing how I feel about this issue so that maybe you will have a better understanding that theres always 2 faces in a coin.
Yogi_bear,
Thanks for your response.
Here’s the complete detail of the “absent” rumor.
It was the week before the 2005 Hua Ching Tournament when I went to Harrison Plaza to practice a little bit before we headed to Cebu for the said tournament. Plresent were Richard Gonzales, Jon Ebuen(first time I met Jon and hit a few balls with him per his invitation), Julius Esposo, Joseph Cruz, Henberd Ortalla and Harold Baring. I had a team with TAcky Santelices, Noel Gonzales, Senyong De Guzman and Joseph Cruz in the tournament. I was there for 3 full hours playing as well as watching the National players train. I did not see Gigi Aguinaldi there until right before their training ended. Can you please confirm this with Henberd Ortalla or Boyang since he was there too.
Also to answer your question about medals we achieved before the 2005 SEAG here a couple for your information. Please research on these also to confirm and correct me if I’m wrong.
1984 Pestasukan Games Brunei
Michael Ngo and Herson go took the SILVER MEDAL(first everin the history of Philippine Table Tennis) in Doubles Event
Coach: Benito Lim
1985 SEAG in Tahiland
Luisa Espino, Lilibeth Bernardo plus 3 more players took BRONSE MEDAL
Coach: Frank Jimena
well, you guys can talk all you want but the fact of the matter is. the faith of philippine table tennis lie in the hands of the people running it. whether they are qualified or not they have the last say. until we can have a hearing to whoever we can talk to like the POC or malacanang (medyo mataas ata eto). we can only pray that they will have a change of heart & listen to us. yun lang
@masusan:
Shame on you ! Ang kapal ng mukha mong mag paratang at manghula. Saying everything is truth and nothing but the truth and the truth prevail. Kupal na kupal ka ! What do you want me to do; guard this thread and invent what to say, ipagtangol ko si ebuen ? Hoy kupal hindi tayo mag kapareho. TATAP, si oskie,si butch, Ikaw at kahit sinong kupal sa pingpong pwede kong tirahin ng naayon sa nalalaman ko. Bakit ikaw lang ba ang dapat paniwalaan ? Mang hula kayong lahat kung sino ako, bahala kayo. Ikaw ang may problema sa mag ama hindi ako. Alam kong may kayabangan sa style ng pag lalaro si ebuen pero hindi ko siya type maglaro, si joseph cruz ang gusto ko; at wla akong masilip sa kanya. Ano ang gusto mong gawin ko. At wala akong tinirang mga player sa nat’l team dahil alam kong kumukulo din naman talaga ang tiyan nila. Dahil sa walang ka kwenta kwetang palakad ng TATAP. Hindi ko linya ang mag turo ng mamanokin ko. Taga kupal lang ako sa mga kupal. Si Tormis nanalo kay Julius at iyon ay tama. Pero sa palagay ko nagibigay ng laro si Julius sa bata; ngayon anong masama sa sinabi ko ? Binaboy ko ba ang Batang si Tormis ? Opinion ko yun kupal ! maniwala ka O hindi nasa iyo na iyon kung paano mo dalhin at hindi kita inuutusan. Nagtanong ka sa akin at sinagot kita. Direktang sagot na nandito ako sa pinas at mali ang mga akusasyon mo. Ang masakit diyan nag kamali ka ng hula and you single out one personality and hit him below the belt. Paano mo ngayon masasagot yung paratang mo eh kupal ka nga.
You mention coach aguinalde, yes he was good nag ka medal nga eh. That’s why I never say or comment anything about him coz he prove something though I never see or know much about him.
Ang sabi ko sa iyo mayabang ka at hindi ka ganun ka lalim, Wala akong sinabing personal O below the belt sa akusasyon sa iyo, dahil hindi kita kilala. At hindi naman ako interesado na makilala kita. Ang alam ko hindi lahat ng sinasabi mo ay totoo at tama. Sa ka gustuhan mong sumikat sa pag tuligsa ayan ang napala mo.
Kundi ka ba naman mayabang , pati ba naman bahay mo sa amerika na binebenta mo kuno banggitin mo pa dito. Ang dating nag papakilala kang mayaman ka at hindi basta basta ganun ba ? Who care ?
Rest you r case dahil wala naman patutunguhan ang pinag sasabi mo. Hindi mo rin naman mailalabas ang identity mo dahil kupal kang talaga. At huwag mo akong utusan kung kelan ko gustong mag post. BTW kaya kupal kasi ang baho ng bibig mo.
yan na nga ba ang sinasabi ko,awat na po at wala pong magandang idudulot ang banatan na ito kasi po nakalipas na itong lahat.
gaya ng sabi ko,importante po ay yung kabutihan na ginagawa sa ngayon.
teka teka time out muna! nagkakinitan na ata usapan.
pls.drink cold water muna mga kasama!!!!
anyway, maiba ako saglit lang to break the “heat.” magpalamig muna kayo.
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Hi george!!! for coming in.
thanks for all your input and pls . do continue pa
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narinig ko lately nag donate ka daw ng raketa ba yun or table dito recently pinas.? tutuo ba ito? we thank you very much!!!! pls. confirm
nakakahawa ka yogi ha.uso na ata ito ah. maging santa claus. hahah
keep up the good works guys. may 3 santa claus pa nga lately na galing sa bansang yelo at snow talaga. ahahahah ayun noh!!!! mismo sa homepage nito ang picture !!!!!yung na bingwit namin . eh halos $2k ang binigay nilang raketa at goma , maliban pa sa sharing of their know how. at makilala na soon soon ang pinas in some other way.
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the bottomline is ———–lahat tayo nagsisikap para tumulong sa pag unlad ng table tennis sa ating bansa at makilala bansa natin in someway. directly or indiretly . kanya kanyang diskarte.
again welcome here george. or ikaw na ang matagal dito ( sorry i dont know )
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talking about michael at herson.thanks for sharing the thing about “doubles ni michael at herson” both penholder katulad me at ang magandang record nila sa sea games. mga comrades ko ito sa fil -chi at gintong alay dahil umalis ako sa gintong alay ng 81 at sila na ang tumuloy.
hay !!! kay sarap mag reflect back minsan sa nakaraan. they brought in some kind of prestige sa atin bansa pero just like anything else. ———-ngayon – wala na sila.
kamustahin mo nalang ako sa kanila sa U.s. eh mga comrades ko ito na parang kumakain kami nyan sa iisang plato mga yan . dumaan kami sa butas ng karayom sa mga panahon na yan
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http://www.tatapx.org/2008/12/31/photo-guessing-game-5/
eto mukha ni herson go
http://www.tatapx.org/2008/12/03/photo-guessing-game-1/
eto mukha ni michael ngo
http://www.tatapx.org/2009/01/21/photo-guessing-game-8/
at eto “bee gess paako nun ” ahahah
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pete
awat muna mga kabisyo !!
inom muna malamig na coke
at magpalamig !!!
hwak galit!!! pumapangit itong forum
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by the way welcome george sanchez from U.S.!
balita ko nag donate ka daw ng raketa or table lately? ?
talaga naman !!!!- binibiyaya tayo ng panginoon!
count your blessing din naman minsan.
yogi nakakahawa ka – pagiging early santa claus. !! pati europeano gumaya na sayo. hahah
pete
@stalker: tirahin mo nga ako sa mga nalalaman niyong dalawa ni masusan? masusan told me before that he knows me from head to foot? I dont like the word “kupal” maybe you are a faggot? Isa-isa kung sasagutin kung me mga paratang kayo sakin.
By the way, nde ako “pisot” baka ikaw? Have a life dude!
@pete: mas mabuti na yung magprangkahan na para alam nang lahat sino ang takot humarap sa katotohan. I am just a normal pingpong-addict-father supporting my kid, helping tatapx, and philtt (tatapusa)by submitting news and joining the forum.
@kakosa
Thanks sa pag apak ng preno.
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@masusan
Matagal ko nang nakikitang nagpopost si paradise (Jon) at stalker dito, dalawang tao sila at mag kaiba ang location.
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@paradise
Yes, hinde natuloy yung Philippine Team dahil sa walang budget at yung ticket mong gamit ay yung round trip pa ng US (via Narita) – Manila – US. Yung intsek na kasama natin ay si Pete yun. Intsek din ako, hilaw nga lang at malaki ang mata dahil hinde gaanong nakakain ng noodles nung bata pa.
Pati si Ting apektado sa budget issue. Sila Peter at Oskie ay nagawan ng paraan ng PSC kaso naging MU (malabong usapan) nung oras na nang pag reimburse, di ko gaanong alam detalye.
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Siguro naman pwede na natin ihinto ang umiinit na sagotan, kalimutan ang lumang issue, magkaisa at harapin ang bagong issue para ituwid.
your a great guy giving news kay harry lalo na sa bandang bisaya – butch
you have contributed a lot. tayo tayo rin naman ang nag bibigay kulay sa tatapx in order just to help harry . a great guy,. di naman sya kumikita dito. sacripisyo pa nga eh.
lets gives everyone here. some kind of deep RESPECT PRE to each other ! all of us.!
no “name calling ” we are matured person may pinag aralan tayo di ba ?
lets all keep cool here. sa pagka excited madalas na a out of of control na .
unless one has hidden agenda. eh wala na tayong magagawa.
pati ang forum ni harry lets all give some kind of respect rin!!! parang awa nyo na mga kasama .
we need “addict ponger father like you ,like me. at im sure marami pang iba , kakosa is even one too. na “nakasakay” sa same boat with us. ! let row our boat at the same direction otherwise pa ikot lang ng paikot itong “boat” natin, – walang direction na. !
pete
george, let me paraphrase my question then, in both instances that you have mentioned those medals, did they ever win both silver and bronze in the same sea games?
also granting na wla si coach gigi dun ng time na yun nung pumunta ka sa harrison plaza at late sya dumating, does that merit the conclusion na palagi syang late or may pagkukulang sya sa training nya? unless you can provide an attendance or in this case a record of absences by coach gigi na napakarami i dont think the ONE instance that you have been there isn’t proof enough of what you are trying to say. by the way, alam mo ba na si coach gigi pa naglalakad sa mga bagay para sa mga players nya kaya may instances na nag-aabsent sya? i do not question that you were present there at that single day that you have made up your mind on what you think he is but the fact remains you were not there everyday to say na kulang sya sa attendance or late sya lagi
we are sowing discord amongst ourselves here. the more may away dito the more lang tayo pagtatawanan ng taga tatap. tayo pa naman ang mga taong may concern sa pagbabago. sana simulan natin sa ating mga sarili at ipakita natin sa kanila na kahit ibat-iba pananaw natin, our common denominator is the change for the good of TT sa pinas.
i think matured tayong lahat dito and i think its not a very hard thing to ask if baka pwede tayong mag-usap dito objectively lahat
nakakahalata na ah…parang “divide and conquer” at winawala na ang usapan tungkol sa tatap… he..he..he..
Ok guys, for the good of TT sa pinas, back to brain storming.
I’m sorry stalker, hindi kita papatulan, I have respect for myself and for this forum. I will end my communication with you effective immediately for the simple reason that I will not tolerate associating with a heartless human being with a blazing toxic tongue. Show a little breeding specially in public. Noble people must behave nobly, because as such it entails responsibility and character. With regards to the issues in my posts, this I can tell you: “Chi La Dura La Vince”
In everything you said ito lang ang naintindihan ko: who cares? ang tama hindi “who care”
Mr. Sanchez, I was referring to the medals won by the men’s national team at SEAG TT only. Kailan huling nagka medal sila sa natatandan mo? compare it to the same level of competition. I didn’t also mean that Coach Aguinalde will just leave the implementation of his program solely to the assistant coach. Siya ang gumawa nito, of course he’ll makes sure they are properly followed and executed well. Read the coaches’ bible book and you will understand well the role of the coach.
sabi harry:
Pati si Ting apektado sa budget issue. Sila Peter at Oskie ay nagawan ng paraan ng PSC kaso naging MU (malabong usapan) nung oras na nang pag reimburse, di ko gaanong alam detalye.
= kilos pagong lang naman ang pag reimburst. may nagback up na sa amin ngayon kaya bumilis ng konti na ang takbo ng pagong ahahahah
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si Ting its not about budget issue. kahit nga sa amerika kaya nyang pumunta sagot pa nya kasama nya
sya nalang tanuning nyo kung bakit. how i wish nandun sya , ganda ng laruan ——–world tourney.
upo kami ni harry at oskie dun sa ringside. no dull moment ! pinanunuud lahat ng world class players naglalaro
naku – kay sarap! kelan pa kaya maulit ito sa buhay namin ?
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yes paradise kilala ko tatay mo for some time, , you can ask him – ako yung singkit na kasami ni oskie ahahahah
kasi kakatapos lang ng congress . kaya makapanuud na kami
you can ask anybody there sa amerika sa tt comunity kung sino me. pero mga oldtimer lang na player tanungin mo. as old as 30 years ago na player. ahahah
naglaro nga kami ng liha dito ng tatay mo katuwaan lang. . so ikaw pala yung anak nyang ng champ.
you are right, kung di ka ask ng allownace sa pinas, ang pinas pa ang may utang sa iyo kung tutuusin sakripisyo ka rin.
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paano naman yung amin ? kami mismo di namin akalain nabiningwit namin
mga ” malalaking isda ” ng ittf para pumunta ng pinas finally. kaaalis lang nga eh.
biruin mo maliban na nagiwan na nga ng eruopean ‘know how’ dahil part coach sya ni primorac, at halos $2 k pa na worth of donation sa mga bata pinamimigay blade at goma. at ngayon i bro brodcast daw nya sa buong international table tennis community what philippines is and what filipino people are ,
( abangan nyo mga kabisyo , may lalabas pa ) mabuti pa ang mga” puti” may utang na loob. !!!at itoy ayon sa pag tanggap namin sa kanila dito and time, effort , expenses on our own.
- kung baga sa pagkain , niluto na namin, inihain na , may kumain na at na i cr na eh kahit yung pamasahi lang man sa pag bili ng gulay , hinihingi pa namin up to now , dahil last minute aprova naman tungkol sa budget ,eh dahil research naman yung amin , walang kinalaman sa politics or competition
pero 6 months na . di naman kami kumikita dito. halos pang adventure lang. hope wala na kaming marinig na negative sa amin dahil laking sakripisyo namin ,
during and after the trip na di ko akalain tinutuo pala yung verbal invitation namin sa kanila ng mga “puting “expert na pumasyal sa pinas for “pingpong tourism” . nagustuhan yung ugali namin sa congress at yung concept.
at hala ngayon !!! seems like napamahal na sa ganda ng pinas. at pilipino. so we are now victim of our own works. sa kaka bunganga tungkol sa vintage liha , ang nakinabang gomador din at the end . hahah pero okay lang.
anyway at that night na nagpa picture taking tayo sa japan , kala ko kasi mag di dinner tayo lahat sa gabi na iyon @paradise ,
para magkakilala tayo lahat lahat ng husto sa isat isa – sabi ni harry angping at kasama si anil , may ari ng buttefly philippine
pero na palpak ata ahahahahah
teka hanapin ko yung picture natin with angping, halos completo na tayong pinoy dun except umpire rachel ata na hinahanap ni angping .
nice meeting you champ. how i wish inabot ko yung caliber mo when i was young while in team. pero sa lahat ng bagay ito ay weather weather lang.
pete
Huwag na natin pahabain ang tungkol kay coach gigi,kasi puro coach gigi BAD coach gigi GOOD at puro mga nakaraan na yun.
right now naman napakaganda ng ginagawa ni coach gigi sa makati at walang katapat yun,he have good venue for training kids and quarterly meron tayong tournament sa makati(binays cup) na napakaraming taong sumasali at dumarami pa.
i can say his better than before noong natonal coach siya,ang dami niya pong taong natutulong at pinapasaya,im proud of you coach gigi!!!
Ang mga medalya nakuha natin noon ay walang kwenta kung hihinto tayo sa pagmamasid para sa ikauunlad ng ating tatap ngayon.
Maniwala po kayo sa akin mga kapongers,ang kailangan natin ngayon ay EXPOSURE!
sa pamamagitan ng tuloy tuloy na exposure sa labas,magkakaron ng kusa ang isang TUNAY NA ATHLETA ng pag asa at pangarap.
hindi ka titigil sa kakapractice pag alam mo na kaya mo sila labanan.
@pete,
Walang tao dito ang hindi sasaludo sa mga nagawa mo sa TT community ng pinas,mabuhay ka pete at todo mo ito kasi boss ka namin pagdating sa pingpong tourism.he,he…
Masusan; even if you try a million times you will not succeed. This I tell you” Prayer without doing is nothing”. A journey of a thousand miles starts with a single steps. Napaso ka ba sa mga binitawan mong mga salita? Btw someone told me who you really are. All I can say is “you’re nothing” dakilang sport director ka lang ng table tennis events minsan wala pa. dahil sa katamaran mo umalis ka pa sa college na pinapasukan mo. Sa madaling salita WALA KANG YAMAN !
Butch: We’ve been talking and arguing some topic but never have I heard bad mouthing from you. For that I am sorry. I did not mean to put you in bad situation for a fact that you’re just pointing out some reason in what we discuss in some topics. I stand corrected.
Sorry to those people out there who had been affected in this discussion? I’ll stop in this thread and hibernate for awhile but sure I’ll be back.
LOL!!!!Whoever is your informant, you are of the same feather….I have never worked in a school in my entire life of existence. A BIG LIE….Never use God in vain please. What ever you say about me doesn’t affect me at all. Verbal violence (like what you are doing now) does not last because truth conquers everything. Violenta non durant,vincit omnia veritas. One thing for sure pinagpapala ang may malinis na hangarin…Success comes like a thief in the night. Watch out for this…and always remember this: Gratia Gratiam Parit… Goodbye…
Kakosa, is everything ready for Laos SEAG? I mean your logistics for your training, airfare, uniforms, bags, shoes etc.etc? I hope by this time TATAP officials have prepared for everyone of you in the national team. Where does the team train daily in preparation for SEAG? Goodluck…
A big surprise to us TT community will soon come. I believe this is a noble cause and I’m confident that this is for the upliftment of our sport and all TT enthusiasts. Let’s all support this development for the good of Philippine Table Tennis. For once, I ask everyone to join hands together and be counted. This is what we need for our sport to soar high..PAGKAKAISA!!!!!! Let us all spread our wings and fly together to where we want to be.
@kakosa ———-ikaw ang mahilig magsisilabas ng bansa just for pingpong safari’ lang eversince sa history ng philippine pingpong sa pinas ,wala na akong nakitang ponger na ganyan sa pinas
can afford pa , willing na willing pa kapag may pingpong – agad sugod dun kahit abroad pa you are more of an “exception” rather than a “rule” -
lalo na sa chinese community theres not much life na in pingong after college graduate.
the climax ng tt career ay sa college – like uaap – buti may pba tayo sa pingpong eh wala naman
pagkatapus nyan – you have to choose your destiny na
serious pingpong ka paba and in the case of chinese – or negosyo na
pero ikaw- iba.
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i know maraming kamalasan, pagkakamali happened sayo na nakaraan
sa buhay mo. naikwento mo sa akin – parang” napakasakit ” kuya eddie ang “storia” ahahah
but going against all odds and for some reasons, naibawi mo. and you are able to catch up. at malakas pa ang katawan mo. i would advise bawas bawasan mo lang ang pagsisgarilyo mo. may epekto rin ito sa performance. if you really want to stay fit.
sa case mo ——-naghanap or hinintay mo na – ken afford ka na
sabay ” banat ” todo todo kana. turbo na ! baka lalong tumanda kana sakit dito
sakit dun – lalong na leche pa di ba ahahahah so you understnd the importnace of time.
hope sa time ng sikat kana – ang ambianace /atmospheer ng table tennis pulso—- ay maganda!
ako di ako ganyan ka swerte! ( i mean the atmosphere )
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im sure how you wish – bata ka pa and how i wish bata pa rin ako
im not too old pa but defintely im not young na , with kinakapitan na ng highblood diabetis etc. (gene)
kaya dapat bumabalik ako sa pingpong someway , pawisan ng husto . perhaps not strenous olympic pingpong pero at least
pokpok dito pokpok dun sa liha para lang pawisan , gain more contacts, at wag mawala sa tabel tennis community ( yung ang pinakama importante ang dami nawalang player sa tt counity di ba ! )
at naibalita pa namin ni pre – oskie sa buong mundo
kung gaano ka hospitable ang mga pilipino , gano ka ganda ang lugar – di lang sa salita pina-demo/sample pa namin sa kanila yung
tinatawag na ” personal touch “ng pilipino. nung nadiriito sila just for short time lang. ! kung ano ito at kung paano makisama ang isang pilipino .
at thank god di tayo na pahiya sa harap ng mundo at i bi build up pa daw tayo sa mundo. ! pangako ni prof. miran.( part trainer ni primorac at ittf sport scienec commitee member).malay mo baka bumuhus ng “releif goods ” dito ahahah —-sa short time na visit nya $2k na agad na worth of supplies sa mga bata biruin mo yon. ——–may na feel syang maganda at pagkaiba dito sa pinas ewan ko kung ano yun ?- sya na nakakaalam nun deep inside. cguro may kasamang “awa “rin
nabasa nyo na ba ang liham nya sa malabon lihadors.( sa homepage ) – huling huli ang nadama nya dito. kinudrado namin ang
liham niya sa frame – ito ang pina ka “trophy” namin mga lihadors. at masabi ko “trophy winning “of some type rin para sa sambayan pilipino.
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in a way you are trying to catch up – im trying to catch up too sa mga pagkukulang na di naganap sa buhay natin nuun , nuun during my or your tt career.
di ko akalain bumabalik sumisigla nga pagiisip ko. , lalong pa ngang na motivate ako pagkatapos nitong so called: congress na ito at lakas loob pasyal sila dito. and meeting experts from around the world , gain respect on a certain field lang naman me. ayos na rin ito sa akin.
ang importante someway , kahit pokpok lang ako dito pokpok lang me duun sa paghawak ng liha , nandirito buhay pa rin ako sa table tennis coumunity trying to help and lately trying to build up the image of filipinos, despite all odds.
sa mga laging nagaganap na’ beheading’ sa mindanao kala pa nga nila – terorista tayo. . kabado pa ngang pumunta dito sila nung una ahahah pero may bagyo na , sinugod parin nila.basta ako ang nagsabi sa kanila
buti di nila tsumempo kay ondoy kundi patay! patay lahat ang naging plano.
ano pa naman magagawa ko eh “old dog “na ako , sa anong paraan ko pa magamit having the honour na naging philipine team nuun.
its not too easy to teach old dogs news tricks- ika nga
pero in age you gain knowledge. you learn thigns in life thru experience . mas malalim ang panananaw dahil nakaraan na sa buhay mo , kung baga papunta palang ang ibang tao – pabalik ka na. lalo na kung ang isa ay medyo’ well traveled’ na
at huli ko sa ilong sila -yung wala sa kanila na meron ang pilipino. at yung ang isusubo natin sa kanila .
at dun im sure hahanga sila sa pilipino. at magtatawag pa ng kapwa expert na isasama at pupunta dito.
yung tinatawag na : ma mahalin mahalin tayo at babalik balikan pa !
they will brush away all negative news naririnig nila sa forieigh media. basta belib sila sa pilipino at pinas. PERIOD!!
kung yun ay nagawa natin, tagumpay na tayo and we have earn our respect from them !!!! kahit pa consider “non rank” tayo sa pingpong
compare sa other asian countries. so what. ? minahal tayo. ni respect tayo. para sa akin yun ang importante .
sabi ni harry, ingatan ko daw na di sila manakawan dito. ahahaha eh sadyang pinalakad ko pa nga sila sa avenida. tuwang tuwa sila. !
ngayon lang daw sila nakakitang pati diploma ng “harvard univeristy” binebenta ahaha! only in the philippines yan
eh halos lahat binebenta na . —–dyos me. ahahah
hope yo guys like the” wento wento ” haluan mo pa ng isang mongolian guest sa pag ga guide ko. ” taob na ang barko” ahaha
masiran na ako ng ulo like kapitan ng barko- ako! yung nga ang biro nga eh. ahahah
aba ! iba ang pagiisip ng eruopeano ha. . nahirapan din ako! kung minsan may kikilusin ka na akala nila bastos yon and vice versa rin !
anyway part of learning yon and adventure na rin yon – i’ll jsut charge it to that nalang. hehe
thanks sa inyong lahat!
pete
George, kaya nga nagkabuklod buklod ang national team natin that time dahil kay coach Aguinalde. May programa kasi. Huwag mo na pilitin ang paniwala mo. You can have it in your entire life but we don’t believe it. I totally agree with yogi_bear’s assessment of this particular issue. Bakit mo pa pinalaki ang issue na ito against coach Aguinalde at isulat pa para lang sa isang beses na hindi mo siya nakita sa training na iyon? Inalam mo ba kung bakit wala siya sa training that instance? Ang isang responsible writer ay hindi susulat ng hindi inaalam ang dalawang panig ng storya much more kung narinig lang. In this case it’s really unfair to make a negative comment on this person. Totally unfounded and baseless one. Still I respect your opinion in which I totally disagree in principle. Be consistent in what you say about him. Tama ka rin yogi_bear na si coach Aguinalde ay personal na naglalakad ng mga kailangan ng mga players niya. tapos huhusgahan na ka agad? ingat lang tayo ng ganito. As for me, this issue is closed.
Yogi_bear,
Eto yung comments mo:
about the absent rumors i dont think its true. may kakilala akong mga rp team tinatanong ko if totoo ito and sabi nila hindi. si coach gigi andun araw2x sa practice nila at sabay sila kahit kumain.
I answered this question of yours by providing you with a fact kasi nandun ako at that time. Hindi ba true yun? That should take care of your specific comment “si coach gigi andun araw2x”. Siguro naman ayaw mo akong magsinungaling kasi pangit ang discussion kung gawa-gawa lamang.
Eto yung 2nd comment mo:
sir george, please bigyan mo ko ng date in the history of the philippines sa sea games na ganung medals pinanalo natin? so ibig sabihin, dahil maganda ang programs natin gold na agad tayo?
Binigyan kita ng dates and events per your reqeust. The only difference is “THERE WERE TOO MANY COACHES(players coaching players) IN THE 2005 SEAG. Dun sa 2 Events that I mentioned iisa lang ang coach ng bawat team. So pagnanalo tayo ng Bronse sa Team and Silver sa Singles it’s because of Coach Gigi Aguinalde? I also would like to know, (ok tanung lang ito ha) did coach Gigi train Richard Gonzales himself in preparation for the 2005 SEAG. Did Gigi coach Richard Gonzales himself, and no one else, but him during the Finals in Singles Event? Siguro panoorin natin ang videos ulit para malaman nating lahat. Tanungin mo rin siguro yung friends mo sa RP Team kung puwede. Furthermore, I really don’t remember I mentioned “GOLD”? I thought I only said “MAYBE SILVER”? How come you are mentioning the word “GOLD” now? Medyo meron yatang halong extra. I don’t mind you being sarcastic kasi we are just exchanging ideas about the topic but please don’t put words in my mouth.
Heres the other one:
in what way na hindi naging good example si coach gigi? mas kilala ko si coach gigi kesa sa yo and you’re statements about being not the good example and hindi respectable don’t hold any ground.
I never disagreed with you na mas kilala mo si Gigi kaysa sakin. Sa pagiging coach ni Gigi na nakikita mo isa siyang magaling na coach. I totally agree with you on that also. Idol ko rin po siya because of his technique and sty;e of play. However, hindi natin alam pareho ang totoong nangyayari noon Yogi_Bear, kasi we were never part of the 2005 National Team’s training. Yung mga hearsays and “according to my friend who was in the RP team” statements, are these all facts? Let me tell you one fact Yogi_bear, I was there and Gigi was not there. Hindi mo rin alam na nandun o wala si Gigi in the training sessions kasi wala ka doon. That is also a fact.
I just want to express my knowledge about the topic. You can always disagree with me. I will always respect your opinions and criticisms. That’s how we build and maintain an interesting and informative topic. Huwag po tayong magagalit kung merong isang taong magkokomento bati sa kaalaman niya whether they are true or untrue. Hindi po sana pikon-talo ang outcome ng debate.
I understand naman na friends kayo ni Gigi. Hindi ko siya kaaway. He knows me also. I have nothing against him as a person and vise versa. I am only expressing some ideas that you might not know kasi you don’t see. Sana you will respect that also.
I also have nothing against you Yogi_Bear. In fact I’m so glad to see you doing what you are doing for the sport we all love. You have my support whenever you need it. Being the director of our TT Club Sherman Oaks I intend to help in any way I can to promote Table Tennis in our country. We have a lot of members here who are willing to support the cause.
George
Masusan wrote:
Huwag mo na pilitin ang paniwala mo. You can have it in your entire life but we don’t believe it.
With all due respect, are you telling me to drop what I feel is true? What if I tell you that? I’m curious to know what response you would give me. Also, who’s “WE”? I really don’t think you represent the entire members’ list. You remind me of a person I know from Florida who was threatening Harold Baring back in the days. He said “WE WILL HUNT YOU IN US”…”WE”. I request to know who’s we if I may. Please list it here.
1.Masusan
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you also wrote:
Bakit mo pa pinalaki ang issue na ito against coach Aguinalde at isulat pa para lang sa isang beses na hindi mo siya nakita sa training na iyon.
Answer: Masama bang sumagot and magtanong? Akala ko Forum ito na open to readers and poster na magtanong and sumagot. Kaya ito humaba kasi may paniniwala ka at ganun din sakin. So siguro part ka rin ng debate na to noh? “Kaya lumaki”
Eto pa:
Inalam mo ba kung bakit wala siya sa training that instance?
Sagot. Hindi. Eto yung sagot ko kay Yogi_Bear na sabi niya na nandun daw siya araw2x.
I dare you Masusan to ask Henberd Ortalla (assistant coach ni Gigi) what he knows about everything para matapos na at malaman ang katotohanan.
You wrote:
Ang isang responsible writer ay hindi susulat ng hindi inaalam ang dalawang panig ng storya much more kung “narinig lang”.
SAgot: Sana totoo yung hinala mo na si Stalker ay si JonJon Ebuen. Para bang you’re contradicting what you just said? Kasi hindi yata totoo yung akala mo according to HARRY? Kaya nga ako nagsulat and “nagtatanong” para malaman nating lahat diba? Kung alam ko ang sagot bakit ko pa tatanungin, don’t you think? Kung baga gusto mong magsulat and “magtanong” kasi hindi mo alam does that tell you that you are an irresponsible writer?
Eto pa:
In this case it’s really unfair to make a negative comment on this person. Totally unfounded and baseless one.
Sagot: Gusto mo lang bang all positive marinig mo to suport your campaign? Does that mean that if I share with the readers what I feel about the topic I am making a negative comment about Gigi as a person? Maybe “being responsible for the MEDALS” yes. Don’t over analize Masusan. It will go back to you.
eto pa:
Tama ka rin yogi_bear na si coach Aguinalde ay personal na naglalakad ng mga kailangan ng mga players niya. tapos huhusgahan na ka agad?
Sagot: Nilakad ba ni Gigi mga kailangan ng mga players niya that day I was there? Hindi natin alam diba? ARe you assuming that he did that the day I was there Masusan? Or hindi mo rin alam? Kung hindi mo rin alam sana huwag kang mag generalize. Facts lang diba?
Lastly:
As for me, this issue is closed.
Sagot: OK lang sakit kung gusto mo. But it’s really up to you kung gusto mo pa. Hindi kita aatrasan.
george i was never sarcastic with my statements with nor napikon ako because we are discussing things in a civil manner. dont ever think im holding things against you. the fact still remains na isang araw ka lang andun na wla sya george and you yourself said na both of us do not know where he went so i think its not reason enough na sasabihin mong hindi tama yung pagiging coach nya at iniwan nya lang kay henberd? ang alam ko sa style ni coach gigi if may pupuntahan yang importante may naka set na syang training program that day na mismo alam ng mga players nya at yun ang ginagawa nila if wla sya. if source mo si henberd di ba hearsay rin yun?
masusan knows more about coach gigi than me. and about sa kay coach gigi lang masusan has the facts
@ George
Sir, nakausap ko po si coach Gigi Aguinalde re that issue way back 2006 pa kung bakit hindi po sya ang nag coach kay kuya Richard during 2005 Sea Games.Hinati po kc daw ang pag coach during competition.doon sya kay jonjon ebuen at si kuya richard naman kay coach henberd.ang practice daw nila kung sino ang nag umpisa mag coach sya na rin daw po ang tatapos.Naalal ko po sa sinabi niya na hindi lang daw po sya at si coach henberd ang nagpagaling kay kuya richard kundi ung buong team na nakapaloan ni kuya richard.12-15 players po yata sila.naging player din po ako ni coach gigi at magaling din po sya magturo.masyadong technical po sya magturo.
Stalker below the belt ka kung tumira pero wala sa true issue ang atake mo. Huwag ka lumihis ng usapan ok? I understand sa mga reactions mo na ito kasi natamaan ka ng todo-todo as in sagad to the bones ang naramdaman mo. Kahit ganito lang ang buhay ko pesos ang kita hindi dollars katulad mo,( are you already working diyan?) masaya pa rin ako at nakakakain ng 6 times a day. Nagsisimba pa rin sa Paco church as usual. I will still stand what I said about you, at kung sino ka. Ilan ba ang accounts mo dito sa forum na ito? Be honest and true…You are still lying about your identity until now, nevertheless, it doesn’t really matter anymore ikaw lang ang taong bilib sa sarili at bida wala ng iba pa kung magsalita sa mundo ng pingpong. As in feeling mo ikaw lang ang magaling sa lahat ng bagay. Stalker in Paradise? bagay na bagay. Pwedeng gawing pilikula, magandang title for a movie, starring J. Ebuen….The way you write in your two accounts, pareho ang pilantik ng dila. Ang buhay ay may ups and downs, sometimes you’re up, sometimes you’re down but definitely hindi constant. Basta ang importante, hindi ako sinungaling.
Magbantay tayo maigi kasi rumors are circulating that TATAP will not be sending the true line up for SEAG. hindi lahat kasama ang nag qualify sa tryouts. I will try my best to find this out if true and post info here asap. Naku baka iba ang designation ng mga tao na sasama. Kakosa are you going up to Baguio for training or yong favorite lang na player ang pupunta? By the way, ikaw lang ba ang nasa national team na hindi men in uniform na makakasam sa Laos SEAG? Keep the fire burning and train to the max. Is Esposo going too? he was ranked 3 during the selection. He should train now too.
yogi_bear of course ang source ni Mr. Sanchez ay si H. Ortalla what can you expect diba? pero if george did more research on this issue at hindi lang si Ortalla ang pinakinggan at nagtanong sa taong concern e wala sanang ganoon na baseless accusation. Mr. george huwag kang mang hamon. Gawin mo ang gusto mong gawin. It’s your right…Iba ang battle cry ko, this is for the good of Philippine Table Tennis period. I don’t need to explain. anyway, I know the truth to the issue noon pa. You are just showing your true person here. kaya, know the people around us first at pumili ng tamang kaibigan. Let us not be too trusting.
Where is H. Ortalla now? Training for SEAG? lalaro uli sa SEAG? ano ba ang posisyon niya player ba o coach ng men’s team? mamanmanan ko ito at pag nagkataon na lalaro nga at iba ang designated coach aba foul na ito, ako mismo personal pupunta sa POC to lodge a complaint.
You read your first write up george and see how inconsistent you are. There is no point to argue and debate about. Its getting out of proportion already. H. Oratalla stay out of this issue, and stop telling past false stories. asikasuhin mo ang mga players mo instead for SEAG, wala kang ginagawa at watak-watak ang mga national team members ngayon. this is the truth at ito ang pagkaaksayahan mo ng oras hindi tsismis. Yogi_ bear, I have not spoken with coach Aguinalde for quite sometime now, can you give me his contact number thru PM please? can’t get thru him kanina pa, did he change number? Hindi na kami masyado nagkikita ni Coach Aguinalde because I travel a lot at nakakahiya naman mang estorbo pa. This was before when he was still a player until he became the national coach. Tahimik kasi siya at hindi mahilig mag tsismis or touch people. kung sa pagiging matulungin niya? no doubt iyan, he helped me sa larangan ng pingpong at sa pribadong buhay din. Hindi ito alam ng TT community kasi nga tahimik lang siya.
I am going to focus on the TT team going to Laos SEAG and the failure of the TATAP officials to act until now for the welfare of the national players. TATAP officials what have you done for the crash training program of our TT national team? I sympathize with them because I know the feeling. How can you fight in a battle field without arms? grabe na ito…baka naman mas marami pa ang TT officials na pupunta sa SEAG than the athletes. sana hindi naman kasi nakakapikon na ito. Where is nr. diotay? saan na po kayo sir? I just like talking to him in this forum, hes such a dinified person. makikita mo sa mga posts niya. I answer issues with sincerity. parang naglalaro din ako ng pingpong, kung ano ang binibigay sa akin na bola, iyon din ang balik ko. pag atake naman I counter attack din.
hahahahaha… hahahahaha… hahahaha…
before this forum ends i would like to say i enjoyed the squabble in this forum. tatapx became alive with the intrigas you throw against each other. para kayong mga bata but entertaining. paikot ikot mga topics ninyo but it made a lot of pongers read this forum. now they know a little bit of something of what is happening behind closed doors. keep it up & you may never know this might be what we need to change our beloved sports. hehehe
tol, ginawa ko lahat para patunayan sayo na mali ka, pero mukhang ayaw mo talaga tanggapin. ang buong akala ko your a person of facts pero mali pala ako.
Tsong, lahat ng sinabi ko sayo puro may basis, pero yung sayo wala. Sabi mo pag inatake ka you counter attack, siguro madalas nakapikit mata mo pag nag counter attack ka, kaya hindi mo alam kung pasok or tinamaan mo talaga yung bola (worst than inconsistent).
Pre,sinabi na nga ng admin dito kong ano yung totoo, hindi ka pa din naniwala. Para mong sinasabi na sinungaling sya. ano pa gagawin ko? edi wala na.
Brad,baka nag tataka ka kung bakit kung anu-ano tawag ko sayo, simple lang hindi kita kilala, sana wag mong masamain.
So, dahil wala na akong pwedeng sabihin sayo, and this would be my last, unless meron ka ma present na katibayan sa mga binibintang mo, then i would respond to you. but until then, let me quote you “Noble people must behave nobly, because as such it entails responsibility and character”
SIge Panget,
Paradise/Stalker, I stand firm with my belief that you are one and the same person unless otherwise someone uses your account or pinahihiram mo. para mo naman ako minaliit pagdating sa advanced technology ng mga computers. The TT community will know who is telling the truth and who is lying soon. Truth always prevail, take note of that. Again,Vincit Omnia veritas…research mo ang meaning nito at isaulo mo. HUwag mo masyadomg ipagtanggol ang sarili mo, let others do it for you. Huwag mong buhatin ang sarili mong bangko or upuan cause its so unusual, iyan ang sinsasabi na ME, MYSELF and ME thing. Do you understand?
George, Never dare me talk to H. Ortalla, ikaw nalang ang makinig sa kanya. Huwag mo naman ako utusan to talk to him. what for? I have no time for him. I want true facts not biased comments and opinions. Coach Aguinalde had at that time a concrete TT program for the national team and he submits this to the NSA Affairs office at PSC regularly. The Philippine Table Tennis team trained twice a day, (morning and afternoon sessions) regularly and that day you were at the training venue, the national players were on their tapering stage of the program and were permitted as requested to go on a free training program that very afternoon cause they were to compete in the Huaching Invitational Tournament then. You know what tapering means in sports parlance? Therefore, tapering was needed, meaning they could train in any which way they wanted to for their table drills. Were you not informed about this by assistant coach Ortalla that time? Wala pala silang regular training when you arrived at the venue as they already had in the morning of that same day. Any national team member will feel the difference between training before and now. Training twice a day will definitely improve their skills, strength, and speed. Wala na akong magawa if still you refused to believe the truth of the issue. Also I do not campaign for anybody sa TT community. Coach Aguinalde doesn’t need a PR man nor he needs me for anything. He is already an accomplished person in the field of this sport of table tennis, his career, and his family.
Huwag na natin ibaling ang real issues dito. TATAP mismanagement ang issues na dapat pagukulan ng pansin. Wala tuloy sumasagot doon sa mga naisulat ko about this.
Masusan,
That was a nice speech. Panay assuming ka din talaga as if nandun ka sa training. Natong lang, maybe readers will benefit on this, Kilala mo ba si Jun Amon? Paki kumusta na lang ako. Pero kung ikaw si Jun Amon, Hi Masusan! Again, nagtatanong lang. Huwag pikon talo.
Boyang,
I hope I’m wrong about this “hinala”. Para kasing iisa yung dictions niya way back in Philtt.com.
@george30 and Boyang :
Mali kayo ng hinala hahahaha, si masusan ay kapatid ni Gigi Aguinalde na may anak na swimmer. Ang galing mang ligaw ni Yog_oso dahil pinalalabas niya na lalake si masusan hahaha. Pero siya din ang nag buko, ##### na ##### hahaha
dapat tawagin sa tread na eto “hulaan mo kung sino ako??”
Thanks George, I made some research on this issue. These are the facts and the truth. I’l be in US this coming July, lets have a liitle chat over a cup of green tea. Where are you in California? Which of these places West Covina, San Jose, or San Francisco is near your place so we can meet personally.
eosguy, tama ka hahahahahaha! why are they so keen on this? natatabunan tuloy ang real issues at hand na dapat tutukan ng TT community. I’m a defensive writer at the same time cause some of the posters here just write in any which way they like, wala ba sa topic basta maka banat lanag. Hindi na uso ngayon maging devil’s advocate, we must have a stand and consistency in what we have to say and tell to the public, kung hindi, wala tayong mga bayag nito. When one writes, what is important is truth and facts of the issue at hand. Kailangan napag-aralan muna bago ilathala. Papano mo nga ba babatikusin ang katotohanan? kahit saan ka banatan, they can’t twist the truth. I’m not a perfect guy so to speak but I stand with my beliefs and perceptions. Pinagpapaguran ko ang aking mga isinusulat. Table Tennis is my passion and If I can do anything to help for the good of this sport, I will! without anything in return. Hindi ko kailangan ang prestige or yaman, hindi natin ito madadala sa kabilang buhay. Dignity, Integrity, Honesty, Humility, Patience are the best values we must nurture, so we can stand tall with honor to anyone in the community.
Masusan,
Alam mo bilib din ako sayo. Ang galing mong magpaikot ng mga salita, ni wala ka pang nasagot sa mga tanong ko eh! Gusto mo pang mag meet tayo? Sa akin ok na ok yan! I’m here in Los Angeles. Ang club ko ay Sherman Oaks Table Tennis Club. Marami kami ditong gustong ma meet ka in person, hindi lang ako.
Na mention mo pa yung word na “bayag”? Sino kaya ang walang bayag sa atin? Eh alam ng lahat kung sino ako eh, ikaw? Ni hindi kita kilala eh (as if)? Ayaw mong magpakilala, bakit? So sino ang walang bayag ngayon? Kung baga gusto mong mag blind date tayo? Ni anino ng picture mo hindi ko ma picture eh! Pero I am looking forward to meeting you sampu ng ating mga FILAM TT players here in LA. I’m sure they have some questions for you also.
So sa July ka pala nandito? Sana punta ka din sa US Open sa Vegas para makita mo kaming lahat din at hindi lang ako. Mamaya baka ma tsempohan mo pa si Harold Baring diba? Diba Umpire ka? Please correct me if I’m wrong I tend to be corrected so don’t hesitate. Hindi ako pikon-talo. Thanks.
Food For Thought for everyone: Five enemies of peace that could inhabit with us: AVARICE, AMBITION, ENVY, ANGER, and PRIDE; if these were to be banished, we should infallibly enjoy perpetual peace.
Father God, you tell us that to be pure and peaceable is part of being wise. So is gentleness and willingness to yield. These sound like the attributes of a good mediator, Lord. Please give us this kind of wisdom. Bestow on our TT community those qualities that can reap a harvest of peace. Amen
AMEN
Sa ipinakita mong asal ngayon, I’m sorry we are not on the same level of thinking and intelligence george. Natamaan ka ba sa sinulat ko at nag react ka to the max? Why o Why? It was for general consumption george not for you in particular. Read it again and again and again ok? Well, I have answered you well kaya nga speech ang tawag mo doon. speech ba yon? LOL! I don’t think so. You can’t simply understand my way of writing, I mean my vocabulary, kaya you have difficulty in understanding every word I say. So… I give you the floor. You can say and write whatever you like to satisfy your wishes. Everything you say shows the kind of breeding you have. Hindi ko kailangan makipag associate sa mga taong katulad mo. I’m cancelling my invitation to see you. It’s not worth it. Mas gugustuhin ko pa makipagkita kay Mr. Diotay and Ka Butch. Huwag kang mayabang porke nasa US ka. Mas masaya ang buhay dito sa sariling bansa kaysa diyan. I’m contented with my simple life here. I just go there for a vacation every year the least, to check my properties sa CA ( pinaghirapan ko ito ma acquire as in dugo at pawis ko ito.)
So…You are all in the same boat with Paradise/stalker/Boyang? No wonder!!! OH!!!! Huwag PIKON, it shows in your way of writng, respect the senior citizens of the land please…LOL! Honestly, ang sarap niyong kausap sa forum na ito, kaya lang I will not waste my precious time with you guys…sorry ha? I have enough with you… Bye!
Back to business tayo next time…
Masusan,
Sabi ko walang pikon-talo diba? Ang lakas ng confidence mong magbitiw ng mga salita. Sa totoo lang alam mo wala akong natatandahang sinulat mo na even nag stick sa ulo ko kasi alam kong bilib ka sa sarili mo eh. Ang hirap sayo kung tinatanong ka ng maayos wala kang maisagot na direct. Hanggang ngayon hindi mo pa sinasagot kung si Jun Amon ka. Yes or no lang naman diba? Diba direct na tanong yun? BAkit dimo masagot? OR maybe you are not really paying attention and that the only words you want to hear are you own.
YOu want to know something else, marami ng tumawag sakin and nag e-mail na sinasabi nilang “Sino itong Masusan na gustong maging talk of the town? Sabi pa nila “bakit hindi niya ma reveal yung identity niya”? “Kung wala siyang kinakatakutan bakit ayaw niyang sabihin kong sino siya?”
Sagot ko sa kanila: “Hindi ko rin alam eh”, “Ayaw ding sabihin sakin”
Salamat kung sa tingin mo ay mayabang ako. Talagang ipagyayabang ko na nasagot ko lahat ng mga tanong mo. Pati si Yogi_Bear din nasagot ko rin maski papaano. Alam mo gusto ko pa sanang mag sulat kaya lang nakaka bore na. Parang ako pa tuloy yung humihingi ng favor na ipakilala mo sarili mo sa mga readers. Wala Masusan. Hindi mo kayang magpakilala. Maski anong isulat mo dito hindi tumatalab sakin. Binibigyan mo pa ng idea yung mga readers na mayabang akong tao. Sige ibigay ko na lang sayo. This will be my last post na lang. Pasensiya ka na ha. Wala na kasi akong maisulat na sana maging papuri man lang sayo kaya hanggang dito na lang.
Harry,
Thanks for giving me the opportunity to express and share with the readers my personal opinion. I hope to be part of your forum again sometime. Thanks also to all the readers. Sana po kung may mga nasagasahan ako sa inyo pasensiya na lang po.
Goodluck po sa inyog lahat.
George Sanchez AKA georgei30.
“bayag” is a figure of speech I used in that particular instance which means consistency, credibility, stand, choice. belief. How will one trust you, respect you as a person of humankind if you don’t have all these qualities? Mayroon pa ba maniniwal sa iyo kung pabago-bago ka ng isip. ng paniniwala, ng pipiliin, ng kikilingan at higit sa lahat ng katotohanan? Kaya, pakibasa muna ng mabuti ang isinusulat ko bago sumagot at magreply. let us show some decency in our posts. The use of sour language or crippling words must be avoided unless you are sure of what you are talking about…the truth, the truth, and the truth.
George, talk about the issues not personalities….If you can talk sense about the current issues/ problems of TATAP, baka , baka lang maniwala pa ako sa kakayahan mo. Depende sa sasabihin mo. but, if you can’t share anything for the good of the TT community, then go to another avenue baka mas makakatulong ka pa doon. Huwag naman guluhin ang forum na ito. Dumating lang kayo, nagulo na. We can debate for as long as you want to on issues about TATAP but don’t use your fowl/foul lingua. call ako diyan…
Will telling you guys my identity change your Attitude and your Character? I don’t think so George et al… I don’t need to be the “Talk of the town” kasi I’m just a simple human being with simple taste and wants. I search truth, I tell truth, I write truth, I eat truth, and I breath truth. Kaya niyo ako pinauusapan at kinukutya. Wala akong kinakatakutan dahil nasa tabi ko ang katotohanan. My identitiy is immaterial as of this moment, what is important is I bring in true information ang give my on mind on it. Its up to the TT community whether to believe or not. So far ang mga issues I tacked here sent a message to TATAP officials at naiayos naman kahit papano. National A-Selections/Tryouts was one of those..Kaya George Tama na, Sobra na.Tapusin na.
@georgei30: with all due respect, dapat perogative ng isang tao kung magpapakilala sya o hindi..I think everybody has the right for privacy.
@masusan: sir, I thank you for your continous vigilance against the wrong doings of TATAP OFFICIALS. gaya ni H.Ortalla na hindi mo talaga malaman kung COACH o PLAYER..kung gusto nyang maglaro talaga, dapat di sya lumigtas sa RANKING. Grabeh! doubleng GLORIA ka H.Ortalla, Ligtas ka na sa ranking, pang pa COACH ang sweldo!
wow..ganda ng diskusyon dito….post #101
for the good outcome of this…
i would just say no one is perfect…
let’s just find the good in everything that had happened and the good qualities in every one and nurture it…
kami dito sa provinces wil do our best in our own way…
kayo diyan sa ncr may malaking magagawa for the best sa ating sport