by Harry
2009 Mayor Jejomar C. Binay 4th National Quarterly Age Group Table Tennis Championships
| December 5, 2009 | to | December 6, 2009 |
The City of Makati and the Philippine Table Tennis Development Union (PTTDU) believes and enjoy hosting a tournament quarterly and it become commitment to renew the sport in the country. We are very pleased to launch the “2009 Mayor Jejomar C. Binay 4th National Quarterly Age Group Table Tennis Championships” on December 5-6, 2009 at the Kolesiyum ng Bayan, Barangay Pio del Pilar, Makati City.
The competition will feature 12 categories that will expect huge participants mostly youth players coming from different schools, teams and clubs. The tournament will intend to promote camaraderie and to discover the best players in the country.
In this regard, it is our pleasure to invite you to be part of this momentous event. Attached herewith is the prospectus and entry form. Should you have any questions regarding this matter, the undersigned will gladly accommodate you at 09228168802 or email at gaguinalde@yahoo.com. You may also contact Peter Francisco (mobile number 09196166029) or Bong Palermo (09052482861) for your queries and entries.
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Truly yours,
Antonio Aguinalde
Tournament Director
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This is a good TT tournament and a a good avenue for our community to hang out, enjoy, relax, at the same time develop the skills of this sport. Congratulations to the organizer of this quarterly tournament and to Mayor Binay for always helping the sport of table tennis. Mabuhay po kayo. Ikaw na talaga ibubuto ko pagka bise-presidente. Makamasa at Makatao. This is the only organization that conducts TT tournament 4 times a year. Even TATAP can’t do this. Aba! dito na ako susuporta kasi may pagmamahal at malasakit sa sport natin.
Sali na tayong lahat at suportahan natin ang Philippine Table Tennis.. kita-kits tayo sa koleseum ng bayan ha? sana wala ako ibang commitments kasi gusto kong makita kayong lahat mga kapamilya.
4 times a year at hinde small time na tournament. Isa lang napapansin ko sa tournament nila, bakit walang sponsor? Ang daming malalaking company sa Makati, sa tingin ko madaling kumuha ng sponsors. Kung sapat man ang budget nila Binay ay pwede yung sponsor sa ibang paraan tulad ng giveaway para sa lahat ng pongers.
Yep…dapat me malalaking sponsors–para ma-encourage at makabawi naman sa gastos mga taga-probinsyang dadayo.
as of the moment hindi pa namin ini-encourage ang cash prizes. last time slimmers’ world, gatorade at greenpaddle ang sponsors. though next year magkakabudget na ang makati table tennis maybe the prizes will be improved also.
we would like to encourage all participants to be early and magpa-register agad. please be advised na the moment you register paki bigay na lang ng registration fee agad hindi yung hahanapin pa namin kayo kung saan-saan para kunin ang resgistration fee.
sponsor ang mcdonalds at pocari ngayon. i don’t think we are obliged to give out cash prizes na malalaki sa especially sa mga bata. this program focuses on the grassroots developments and not on the prizes.
@yogi_bear
Hahaha, kakapagod pa naman maningil. Dapat pag di umabot ng deadline ang bayad ay di na kasali.
yun nga eh we would like to accommodate as many people as we can but chasing the registration fees from the participants eats up a lot of time. yung mcdonald pala hindi pa final na sponsor yan, i stand corrected.
Pag hindi nagbayad, hindi registered, pag mamaya ang bayad mamaya din ang registration.
stick with no pay no play, you have better things to do during tournament.
I agree with you aaron, deadline of entries must be followed. late registrants should not be accepted anymore. Much that you (organizer) would want to accommodate a lot of pingpong players to this high level tournament, still they have to respect and follow rules. Registration should be accompanied with payment at the same time. Kaya mga dear coaches of clubs/schools please register early. Remember early birds get the good achy worms ika nga…Seriously, all concerns must take note of this. We have to have a system para maging maayos para din lang sa kapakanan ng TT community. Self discipline plays a major role dito. This is our community kaya dapat magtulungan lang tayo para sa ikakabuti din nito. Let us start it from within ourselves…sige nga, I will ask the organizers kung sino ang 1st 3 clubs na nagpa register before the deadline at nakapagbayad na rin sa registration fees, Also kung anong club/school/ ang pinakamaraming participants or has the biggest contingent.
yogi-bear, I like the point you raised re giving of big prizes. I am even surprised why only the sport of table tennis is giving away huge cash prises on tournaments, pwede nga ang organizer nito habulin ng BIR. This is an amateur sport tournament, Organizers should focus more on athlete’s/ player’s skills development not on cash incentives or prizes. Kaya pala ang motivation ng isang pingpong player para sumali sa isang TT tournament ay dahil lang sa malaking cash prizes? This shouldn’t be tolerated if you are to ask my opinion regarding this. This defeats the ultimate goal or the very essence of having such tournaments or competitions in the grassroots level up to the nationals. Medals/prizes in kind should suffice efforts of these TT players in making it to the top. Magiging mukhang pera kayo niyan….
Makati City is conducting this TT tournament on a regular basis, wala tayong tournament of this kind dito sa buong Pilipinas kaya alagaan natin ito. Hosting a TT tournament is not a joke kaya I feel this activity is really for the love of Table Tennis at para sa mga TT enthusiasts and nothing more. Hats off ako sa mga tao behind this Mayor Binay’s cup TTT for this noble brain. The TT community gets all the benefits of this tournament and with that, Thank you… I will try my best to attend this event. if not I hope i could get news from this forum.
Talking of cash prizes, kahit maliit lang, sana libre pamasahe at accomodation nang mga taga-probinsya… he..he..he..
@masusan: only table tennis is not giving “huge” prizes compare to other sports like badminton and tennis sa pagkaka-alam ko lang.
only Huaching Invitational is giving 40k for the team champion unlike billiards, sisiw lang ang 40k for the top prize.
post updated with download link to entry form.
ako sangayon ako kay butch
sisiw ang table tennis
kung compara sa ibang sports – prizewise.
tagal ko na gin raise itong quetions na ito
ethical ba mag bigay ng cash prizes sa table tennis. ?
itoy ba ay ” Balatkayo” or deep down in our heart – we really need them.
may kanya kanyan opinion.
right in front of me may nagsabi pa nga sakin – lagyan mo ng malaking pera world champion ang pinoy maging. – perhaps like pacquiao , bata reyes ang nangyari.
pero gulat ko talaga sa T.V. pro tour table tennis
like $15 k tinaas ng tseke at karangalan pa ng bansa
bakit sa tabel tennis lang ang “taboo” sinabihan bang mukhang pera sila mga pro tour winner.
eh ang itsura ng mukha parang walng dating, di pa nga ngumiti
para pa atang naliiitan pa ahahahah
so time has change perhps or we didnt change.. ?
inamain ko im not upadated – can anybody explain this to me / to us here.
gulat me when i saw this in TV. parang super ordinary na pala ngayon. totoo ba yung nakita ko sa T.V. i was shock.
pete
ano ba ito kakao
sa panahon ko walng ganyan.
si bat reyes. tainas ang million tseke
krangaln pa ng bansa
sort ba ito or game? let us ay chess or billiard pinapawisan ba sial nito?
now we are back on square one.
bakit sa billiard walang stigma pag dating ,kahit pa pinakikita pera sa T.v.
bakit sa sabong walang stigma rin – palkpakan pa s itong masamang bisyo .
bakit dart lang nga eh walang stigma at may pera na
sa table tennis may -stigma – kapag may pera involve even just prize
dont tell me sa likoran ng basketball dont tell me walang perang pustahan yan so is pacquiao fights.
ang badminton, tennis may cash prize din ba , kitang kita ko sa T.v. meron.! proud pa.
– sisiw ang table tenis unfortuantely when it comes to this. mahina ata humakot ng cash sponsowership ang mga tao ng tabel tennis for the reason of – why ? naman ??
is this “one of the reasons” kaya kokonti ang gustong mag table tennis. ?
dami kong nakaharap – what ?pingpong ?- ano mapala mo dyan?
tameme ako !
ang masasbi ko lang agad scholarship ng bata – pero after shcolarship ano na?
tagal na kasi nasa ulo ko tungkol sa topic dito kung ano talaga ang tamang diskarte.para dumami ang mag pi pingpong at para di maliitin ang larong pingpong.
minsan nga kapag sinabi mo sa tao pinggong ang laro mo – secretly tumawa pa sila – naku nakaka insulto ! para bagang napaka’ small time ‘mo naman tsong bakit ganyan ang dating dito sa pinas ! im sure may problema dito pati image eh. !
healthy discusssion lang dito please ! at peace tayo lahat ha – kasi facts ito!
pete
I respect your opinions, Butch and Pete, I hope you understand mine too. Notice my post regarding this topic, I mentioned table tennis as an amateur sport. If you compete internationally meron bang cash prizes ang mga tournaments sa mga nananalo? In the field of taekwondo, amateur boxing, gymnastics, volleyball,dragon boat, swimming, and other SEAG and Olympic sports do they get huge cash prizes? you can turn professional if you want big money, huwag naman sa amateur or developmental or grassroots tournaments sumali kung pera lang ang hangad. Hope you understand my point of argument also.
In this particular tournament, I learned na P100 lang pala ang registration fee per player at libre naman sa mga batang 14 and under. Gulat talaga ako kasi napakamura pala sumali sa tournament ng table tennis na ito sa Makati. Mayroon medals, cash prizes and in kind prizes ang mga mananalo. Aba sa halagang P100? parang libre na rin ito kung iisipin natin diba? Malaki at maganda ang venue, standard ang equipments, kagalang galang na mga officials, computerized as in H-tech daw, kaya ang mga matches ay naka post na. This is something…so let us not ask for more, tumulong nalang tayo at sumuporta sa ganitong mga tournaments for the good of our sport, Ano pa ba ang pwede natin ereklamo sa tournament na ito? Lets be contented of what will be given, what’s important is nakapaglaro kayo sa isang well organized high level TT tournament.
hindi namin responsibilidad sa makati sports magbigay ng prizes para masuklian ang pamasahe. responsibilidad yun ng mga parents ng players. huwag mo sana i-compare ang huaching sa binay cup butch. ilang low level players ba ang nakakasali sa huaching compared to binay cup? ilang beses ba ang binay cup sa isang taon compared sa once a year na huaching cup? ang purpose ng binay cup ay exposure sa mga bata and it is fair to say na this is the best grassroots tournament program sa TT in the philippines.
tama si masusan, pano naman yung swimming butch? nakakagold nga tayo sa swimming sa sea games may cash prize ba na malalaki sa local swimming events sa pinas?
hinahamon ko kayo if ganyan opinion nyo. kayo kaya gumawa ng tournament na quarterly tapos yung bawat first prize ng bawat age group category is kahit P5000 na lang not counting the 2nd and 3rd prizes pa tingnan natin kung san kayo kukuha ng pera! ano ba purpose mo? magkapera or makalaro at may exposure? kung sasabihin mong maglalaro ka at the same time may perang malaki maybe nahihibang ka na! table tennis is not boxing nor basketball. comparing other sports to table tennis because is not really a valid arguement..
practical example, alam ko ang isang tournament lang sa binay cup ay P100k ang budget. babawasan na lang namin 100k every quarterly para ma -accomodate ang prizes? na instead makakagawa kami ng tournament every 4 months babawasan na lang namin frequency? and talking about sponsors, hihingi ka ng pera like mga 75k for prizes only per tournament with the frequency like that of the bonay cup? ok ka lang? kung once a year lang sana ang binay cup pwedeng-pwede eh pero every 4 months ganun kalaki prizes mo? idealism without practicality will never reach realization and is very much useless!!!
Ang ibang sports ka Pete, ang mga athletes pa ang nagbabayad ng mga coaches para sa training nila. In other words they pay for their personal development and enhancement of their craft. Bakit wala kamo gustong mag pingpong? Hindi kasi napagtutuunan ng pansin ang grasssoots program ng association natin. Mayroon pagkukulang ang association pagdating sa pangangalaga ng mga atleta natin. Kung maganda sana ang pamalakad ng TATAP para sa kapakanan lang ng Philippine Table Tennis, mabibigyan sana lahat ng areas sa ating sports ng pansin and in turn will encourage more youths to play this sport pingpong. Papano mo naman pipiliin ang sport na ito kung walang vision ang mother association natin. Bakit ang ibang sports kahit mahal ang bayad o malaki ang gastos sa training sige at patuloy pa rin kasi alam nila na may future ang sasali-an nilang sport dahil ang NSA nito ay tumutulong sa mga atleta, progressive or may naipapakita na champion athletes sa SEAG, Asian Games and even olympics. In other words may credibility ang NSA nila mag invite, mag attract, mag motivate o mag lure ng mga bagong clubs/athletes to join them. Let’s think about this scenario and compare it to our own. Yong ibang NSAs dumarami pa ang membership nila habang tayo ay lumiliit ang mundo. LOL! Bakit kaya? Pakisagot naman please…..
Please ,don’t compare table tennis to billiards, pro boxing, lawn tennis, chess, or even golf. ito kasi ang mga sports na mayroon big cash prizes. all the sports I mentioned above ay walang cash prizes na natatanggap. Sa mga tournaments and competitions nila dito sa pilipinas medals at trophies lang ang natatanggap nila, walang pera or cash prizes, and yet, they are medal sports in SEAG, Asian Games, and even in Olympics. As I have said before, bawat sport ay triumvirate in nature, meaning the success of an athlete is a triangle thing, athlete/coach/parents. one without the other the triangle will not stand. So tama po kayo yogi_bear, parent’s support is very very important in an athlete’s quest for victory. Nasa taas naman ng triangle ang NSA nito.
Agree, no need for cash prize in amateur tournaments. We need a pro tour for this to happen.
I remember few years ago that a group of pongers founded a new association and registered it in SEC, they claimed that they will have a pro tour like tournament with cash prizes. GONE. It was like tiny bubbles in the wine, makes me feel happy, makes me feel sad
Larger court/field = higher cash prize ; eg. Soccer and Baseball
Larger ball = higher cash prize, maybe we can ask ITTF to change ball diameter from 40mm to 200mm
Longer racket = higher cash prize
great guys sa mga answers nyo ! im glad
isa isahin natin , at himay himayin natin ang usapan nito.
kahit dahan dahan no problem
seem slike kasi its all mixed up
teka unahin ko ito sabi harry : sabi
I remember few years ago that a group of pongers founded a new association and registered it in SEC, they claimed that they will have a pro tour like tournament with cash prizes. GONE. It was like tiny bubbles in the wine, makes me feel happy, makes me feel sad
= ive apprached this assoctioan but jsut liek any other filipino attitude
heh hele quere. ninas qugon !!!!
because i need some peopel to help me with the “reisman challenge” of him coming back ( his a star here in 1952 at that time, uwi sila states ng $ 20,000 take home with another world champion cartland. ) at di biro ang gusto nya. at walang legal representtion ang mga lihador dito. so im still in limbo regarding this. the recognition na sya ang pinakamagaling na lihador sa buong mundo ay nasa sa kanya pa. ( and i hate it ) dahil di ito tutuo . i know this is professionalism avenue . i admit wala akong alam dyan but one thing alam ko yung karangalan tungkol dito nakaw na ito sa pinoy sa pamamagitan ng “sabi sabi ” lang . kung okay lang ito sa inyo, well , ———— ako di ko malunok. dahil alam ko ang tutuo !
sige dun na ako sa inyo regarding amateur , no cash or less cash no problem sa goma
may internatinal springboard naman ito down the path so perhaps okay lang. recognition sapat na kahit pa tansan lang isabit na prize. ahahah recognise champion
ako na ang nagsabi na ang binay cup ang ganda ng medalya nila , di yung pipityugin na medalya ang natangap ng anak ko dame na at pinupuri ko talaga! mas maganda pa sa palarong pambansa keep up the good work. ! eto gin emphasize ko. i hope im not being wrong.
im with binay cup. superb ang exposure dito. dahil nga quarterly na ba barometer ang progress ng bata , na sino sino na ang umasenso. ako narin kauna unang sumigaw na if binay want to run for president , ako boto . dahil alam ko ang kahalagahan ng politico na may hilig sa pingpong and can do a lot of miracle even ooverlight like badminton with ramos for exmaple kung presidente si osmena nuun way abck pa sa 60s ang national sport natin table tennisa at di basketbol. ilan beses ko na sinasabi ito. based on past history and experience. sila osmena ang nag invite sa world champion nuun like resiman ,cartland at dame pa iba. !!!!! buhus pondo kung ano gusto ng presidente! wala question.
pete
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For me, if my tournament is for the grassroot, I will not include the Men’s and Women’s categories. I will change it to kids’ doubles competition.
For me as a parent, masakit din sa bulsa ang gastos mo sa isang raketa for your kid to compete on his highest level. Isang decent rubber ay kumpara na sa isang sakong bigas (tatarayan ka pa nang misis mo, “anak nang pating, nde kayo nanalo nang cash prize para ma compensate gastos nyo? buti pa hinto na lang kayo pingpong).
You have to invest more to support your kid for him to be on the top spot. Sayang din ang gastos mo if walang patutunguhan ang bata. In table tennis, after Palaro or Milo events ay wala na! compare to other sports, chess or swimming–they have a very good grassroot program competing outside Phils.. Yes, to masusan…TATAP is very weak!
bakit naman hindi i-include yung non-rank at open na men and women? para mapalaki ang prizes sa mga bata? hindi naman yata tama na alisin ang sa men and women’s category, bonus pa nga yun kasi merong ganung category sa isang grassroots eh. sayang talaga if wlang patutunguhan ang anak mo if lagi sya hindi nananalo eh pano naman yung mga nagiging magaling at nananalo? so yung scholarship poetential sa college if ever gumaling anak mo hindi pa ba sapat yun? malaking bagay rin yun butch kahit kwentahin pa natin ang gastos.. kaya nga investment tawag dyan eh. you have to give out something para ma-achieve mo gusto mo. ano hindi ka na lang maghihirap para ma achieve mo yung gusto mong mangyari? that is the sad truth in life, kelangan mo gumastos para may makuha ka and nothing is free nowadays.. we are doing our part sa binay cup para sa grassroots but it is never our part sa gatos ng magulang sa anak nilang mga players and it should never i mean NEVER be imposed on us kasi responsibilidad nyong mga magulang yun.
i do agree sa doubles though. mas ok if may doubles competition though i need to consult it pa kay coach gigi if pwede isali
Agree on you regarding college varsity scholarships. Manila universities are giving full scholarship to table tennis players. Me high school pa nga daw sa Mandaluyong na free din tirahan at pagkain ang mga TT players. Unlike Visayas only selected schools are giving such grant. Mindanao is giving only 50% discount on tuition fee. Major sports like basketball (more players) has more school benefits compare to pingpong? bakit kaya?
Mas masaya if me doubles ang tournament, mas enjoy panoorin kumpara sa singles lang.
Maganda talaga ginagawa nyo dyan for the kids…”ganito kami sa Makati” ha..ha..ha
Naka-usap ko si coach Jiji Jawad last Huaching tourney, she told me lots of Cebu politicians lumalapit daw at gustong mag sponsor. Sana, sunod-sunod TT tourneys dito sa Cebu before the May elections.
cguro if matapos na ang makati coliseum na aircon at mas malaki baka pwede idagdag doubles. hayaan mo pwedeng mangyari yan
Ka Butch a balanced/high level tournament for table tennis or even in any sport for that matter includes all levels/categories or age brackets/age groups whatever you may call it. Grassroots to nationals/elite must be covered without discrimination based on the CBL of our association. Dapat nagsasamasama ang buong TT community for a tournament like this. Skills development is not the only goal of a tournament or a competition. There is camaraderie, enjoyment, fun, new acquaintances, the younger players will be able to watch good matches/plays of the older (men/women) ones, at the same time they will be able to emulate, motivate and inspire them to achieve their own dreams and aspirations and see them as role models or even idols in the sport they are into. Ka Pete isn’t this also one of the ways to attract or invite new table tennis players to chose this sport instead? let’s join our hands together for this worthy cause, ambag na natin ito sa kaunlaran ng Philippine Table Tennis. Young oldie na tayo, hindi na natin kailangan ang spotlight or limelight ika nga, we have made our own accomplishments in the field of sports, kaya, kung mayroon tayo maitutulong in our own little way huwag na natin ipag giit ito.
Ka Butch, I know and I can feel your desire to uplift Philippine Table Tennis in the wide field of sports. Yes, nasa hulian ang sport natin dahil sa palpak na pamamalakad ng mga current leaders nito. Ang magandang leadership ay nagkokonsulta sa community nito. We are TATAP, so the entire TT populace should not be taken for granted or sidelined. They should hear us too. Ito ang ideal set up ng isang magandang pamunuan. good organization, good programs, good communications, equals good governance, equals progressive NSA. Magkaisa tayo Ka Butch, usap tayong lahat para isulong ang progresibong Philippine Table tennis.
ka – masusan said :
Skills development is not the only goal of a tournament or a competition. There is a) camaraderie,
b)enjoyment,
c) fun,
d) new acquaintances,
= you hit the bullseye ka masusuan.!!!!thats exactly what i found in liha type of play
i may sound a bit “corny ” or not exactly the ideal play most people understood about
but those are some of the prime reasons why the recent vip ittf foreigners are attracted of since we still have this liha. , and yet share their skill in “goma ” plus gave in $2 k worth in “goma ” material donation. and will still come back to give more.
it did motivate me , im no longer young , and now a new breed of older players now exist and came out from hiding. yung 50 and up ahahahahah nakikihalo na in someway , but in their own way.
lumaki na tuloy ang tt community,dahil may variant na yung kaya nila “stresswise” na suitable for them , mga matured player pa kamo at sa pagka matured nila , sure makaktulong pa . i know many attorneys doctors playing this they can move heaven and earth. eh dahil sa goma karamihan – karamihan estudyante lang
sorry kung napalihis ako sa topic i just happen to saw the right words na sinabi ni masusuan and it did reminds me of what i have discovered lately and brought about by trying to revive the vintage play that rank very on on these a, b, c, d, and e qualities. thanks
there is still a big difference between what you see or trying to go after in table tennis——– olympic competitive ba or enjoyment lang or yung iba – pera!!!! i think we have to try to distinguish ones self motive. ! amd just be honest about ourselves and to others. haha
pete
@butch
Sabihin mo rin Butch na ibabandila ang pangalan ng sponsors dito sa site natin, tamangtama sa darating na election.
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Alin mas masaya para sa mga bata, doubles o team competition?
@pete: Sa Cagayan de Oro mas sikat ang goma, matatandang doctors, attorneys, at engineers naglalaro versus mga bata. Kung dumadayo sina Dr. Louie Metran of Davao, me exhibition game between Dr. Ferdinand Miranda of CDO versus Dr. Louie Metran…he..he..he.., sa rubber kasi pwedeng ma-upset nang matandang gurang ang batang nasa high school na at pwede din e-upset nang batang grade school ang matandang gurang! ha..ha..ha.. Alaskahan buong buhay mo kung nde ka makakabawi in the next tournament.
@harry: for me, Doubles ang pinakamasayang laro bata man o matanda or mixed.
no probme butch goma or liha
basta masaya
ang buhay ng tao may darating sa panahon nya na sasakit na katawan mo sa goma lalo na sa 40 mm balls
so ano stop kana? hwag! may liha pa – para wag kalang mawala sa table tennis comunity. “high maintenance” ang goma play , solciit kayo salongaos compnay ahahah para libre kayo sa salongpas.
“fallback “lang naman namin ito ,mga old dog eka nga. may second life na kame we found out na so gain na motivate nanaman kame
nagagmit pa namin yung old style namin na “drive”, chop sa liha counteran pa kamo
tsalap tsalap at pinagmamalaki pa. ahahaha gulat mga puti palakpakan pa ahahahah
pinoy lang makakagawa na ganoon for almost 50 years of refinement in a “sliperry ” racket “like liha or even bare wood , its almost consdier a “feat.” cge gawin nyo bago kayo mag husga.at pagmasdan nyo ang tulo ng pawis nyo inspite off racket being lightweight.
haha
gentlemen watch ultra 2 next month ! liha
and discover which crowd ang mas marami nanunuod – goma or liha? pagmasdan nyo
pete
actually kahit 90 years old ka na pwede ka pa rin mag goma. age is not a limiting factor sa pag gamit ng goma if that is not true then why is it sa states merong players old ladies and men yung isa 100 years old na goma pa rin gamit nya? the notion that when you reach 40 and above liha na lang ang choice mo, i-beg to disagree.
Malapit na ang tournament na ito, ilang tulog nalang mga ka pongers kita-kits na naman kayo. Don’t forget to bring an extra piso for our SEAG TT national team ha? makiisa tayo sa layunin na ito. Sayang, wala ata ako sa tournament because I’m scheduled to go to Laos for an ocular inspection of the athletes village. according to my sources, the athlete’s quarters are without airconditioning facilities. Ewan ko ba itong Laos na ito ang yabang mag host ng SEAG, unequipped pala in almost all areas. Sana hindi naman malamok at kawawa ang mga athletes. LOL!!!!!
Hi everyone, bago lang po ako dito sa website pero matagla ko nang binabasa ang mga palitan ng opinyon ng mga miembro. Nakipagpalitan na rin ako sa ilan sa mga inyo bilang guest sa lumang format. Ako rin ay nababahala ngunit hindi nananinibago sa mga situation na ito. Magbabahagi lang po ako ng konting karanasan at kasaysayan ng TATAP. Mula sa panahon ng Gintong Alay, ito na ako mga reklamo at hinanakit ng mga manglalaro hindi lang sa ating table tennis pati na rin sa ibang sport. Masuerte pa nga ang table tennis kaysa sa arnis at dama, kilala na SEAG sport Ako rin ay matagal na table tennis.Dating miembro ng TATAP at kilala ko karamihan ng mga tanyag na manglalaro sa Pilipinas mula 1980. Nakapaglaro at nakasama din po ako sa ilang mga palaro ng TATAP at DECS. Nakilala, namasdan at nakausap ko rin ang mga namuno (apat) at mga ala gad ng TATAP kung paano nila patakbuhin ang administrasyon at alagaan ang table tennis sa Pilipinas. Naibahagi rin nila sa akin at sa ibang nakikinig ang kanikanilang mga plano at pangarap para sa TATAP at para sa ating mga manglalarong Pilipino. Ako at kapwa kong manglalaro at mga estudyante ay naging biktima din ng mga kabulastugan ng nakaraang TATAP admin.
Sa aking opinyon, matapos na mabasa ko ang karamihan ng reklamo at negatibong komento laban sa mga namamahala ng TATAP ngayon, na karamihan (maliban kay Binag at ilang mga opisyal) ay musmos pa lang kilalala ko na ang kanilang hindi maayos na paguugali at ang huwad na pamamaraan, mas higit ng ilang puntos ang pamamalakad ni P.V. at So K.C. para sa ikasasaya ng lahat ng miyembro at ating mga nasyonal players. Marami din silang pagkukulang at nasaktan na damdamin ngunit hindi kasing dami at sama ng kasalukuyan at nakaraang dalawang administrayon.
Kung nasusubaybayin rin ninyo mula noon pa, kahit na ngayon na may website na, wala isa sa mga Presidente o Sec. Gen ng TATAP ay umamin at nag paumanhin ng kanilang pagkukulang at nagpalahad/nareport ng kanikanilang yeard end financial report. Ang madalas kong mabasa sa opisina at pahayagan ay ang kanilang mga paulitulit at kinopyang programa at request ng kailangang budget para sa mga international tournaments katulad ng SEAG.
Maibalik ko ngayon sa kasalukungang problema, hindi pa huliang lahat sa pangangalap ng pondo. Ito pa nga ang magandang simula upang makapaghanap ng ibang paraan o tulong hindi lang para sa mga national players natin ngayon kundi para na rin sa mga susunod pa. Hindi man umabot ang mga nakolekta pa sa Laos SEAG, puede itong magamit para sa susunod na mahalagang proyekto na makakabuti o kapakipakibang sa ating junior program. Ang kailangan lang ay maayos na pagiingat at ng pondo.
Handa akong makisama at tumolong sa bagong administrayon at sa ating mga kabataan, kung sangaayon at tiwala ako sa paraan, dahilan, patutunguan at pagiingat ng pagkolekta,
May tanong ako sa inyo masusan at huwag nyo po sanang mamasamain, ano po ba ang inyong katungkulan o kahalagahan inyong “scheduled to go to Laos for an ocular inspection of the athletes village”
Yon lang po. Salamat sa inyong oras.
yeah. i agree with masusan’s suggestion. sa 1st day ng binay cup we will be asking for donations and ibibigay namin to sa mga players hindi sa opisyal na sasama kasi baka gawing shopping allowance to. though i heard na december 6 aalis na sila so we will be collecting this agad and give to them agad para madala pa nila
6th na pala alis nila, medyo late ang idea ni Masusan. Good luck.
yogi – hope you dont get me wrong
you said :
the notion that when you reach 40 and above liha na lang ang choice mo, i-beg to disagree.
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wala naman akong sinabing kapag 40 and above ka na liha, liha nalang choice mo.
ANG PAgLARO NG TABLE TENNIS MGA KAIBIGAN – NO FORCING DAPAT !
depende kasi sa tao yan kasi may malakas pa – continous ka pa sa goma hala cge —no problem ,
walang tutol , hala spin as you want. no problem kaya mo pa naman di ba….. so no problem.
pero kapag napagod ka na for some reason, , nahirapan kana sa goma – eitehr 40 , 50 , 60 etc. wag ka aalis sa table tennis community may ” second life” pa -liha pa for a slower game.
maraming tao just becsue they can no longer catch up sa goma – just
drop thier racket nalng . lalo na kapag “ginugulpi” ka na ng bata nakaka down na ng pride. ahahaha
- mali yon – they didnt know better. sorry for them nalang
or nakaka enjury ka na kadalasan, natatakot ka na , or masakit na
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its like saying kapag di mo na kaya ang fast car racing
may karerang jeep pa sasalo sayo – as an alternative. as a “fallback”
bottom line is hwag ka lang aalis sa racing car community – mas worst pa yon. !!!!
its never intending to replace goma , but a “variant” lang for some reason. many personal
reasons, perhaps some cant afford na , some nabibilisan na or what. ang paralympic dapat dito pa nga eh
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ask some LIHADORS of marikina for example, all liha sila of seinor citizen kung wala daw
liha tagal na sila tiklo ! grabe pa diabetis nila kung wala raw liha play. surprisingly filipinos knows better !!!!
No wonder its still here in the Philippines this liha play . di lang nila bino broadcast . so i help the lihador broadcast the HEALTH benefits of liha play TO THE WORLD !!!! sikat pa ngayon ang pinoy lalo.
AT I CON CONFIRM NA NG TABLE TENNIS SCIENTIST SUCH
AS PROF. MIRAN ABOUT THE BENEFIT OF PLAYING LIHA –
DAHIL NA INTERVIEW NA NYA AT NAKITA NA NYA MISMO
NUNG NAPASYAL SILA RITO AT CONVINCE NA. NA ANG MGA
THESIS NAMIN AY TAMA AT MAYKATWIRAN.
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sa mundong magulo na ito some may just like to go back and listen to vintage song and music of of “frank sinatra song nalang”
for one i do . well at least we have the luxury of choice.
well i hope down the road in table tennis we will have a luxury of choice din too
depending on which racket you feel – mas comfortable ka. then you play with the same type of racket din.
sa kakaingay nga ng pinoy eh at nakita ang ultra liha sa youtube ,. na realsie pa tuloy ang mararaming puti !!!!
eto may association na tinayo ang states sa liha para dumami ang populasyon pa sa table tennis.
http://www.floridatt.com/sandpapertt/news.php
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kotse at jeep hwag mag away ! ahahah
kanya kanya yan eh. parehas sasakyan din yan.
ang isang lane para sa karera ng kotse , ang isang lane para sa karera ng jeep
at ang isang lane para sa karera ng bisikleta. !
ang jeepney nga eh cultural pa – sisikat pa ang pinoy dahil dito
walang kahirap hirap. champion na agad kapag sinabak sa ibang lahi -liha sa liha !!!!
paano ? ni ” refine” pa ang palo ng liha ng pinoy sa underground manner for almost 50 years.!!!! oh boy !
sinong hindi gagaling dyan ahahahah
pete
sabi butch :
sa rubber kasi pwedeng ma-upset nang matandang gurang ang batang nasa high school na at pwede din e-upset nang batang grade school ang matandang gurang! ha..ha..ha.. Alaskahan buong buhay mo kung nde ka makakabawi in the next tour
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= so its more winning ang losing pala
is that all they want?
ang matatanda supposedly looking for more sweat
and more on aerobical exercise at hopingly matuklasan nila
at paano naman matuklasan kung walang bro broadcast!
and between goma and liha – mas aerobical ang liha.
scientific data will be shown – i promise the world!!!!
the “barometer” of fun – mas mataas din
depende na nga kasi kung ano na ang tingin mo sa pingpong!
its all individual reasons na kasi.
actually nothing wrong or nothing right.
its what purpose one is after.
pete
The Makati tournament is just around the corner. This is a big high level competition which all pingpong enthusiasts must join and participate. Yogi, thanks for the info. Ang galing ng management ng tournament na ito. This is a pre christmas tournament kaya masaya ito para sa mga pongers natin. Let’s support this tournament and send a message to TATAP that they have not been doing anything to promote our sport.
If my sources are true in saying that H. Ortalla is going to Laos SEAG as a player then this is a stupid move on the part of the leadership. I’m starting to believe that politics is indeed working in our sport. If D. Ortalla is the culprit behind this idea, Binag must still answer for the wrongdoings of the people under him. This is command responsibility as the president of the association. This is a shame and a slap in in face as a leader. Sundalo pa naman siya, where is his service to humanity? He fell short of our expectations no doubt.
What is to be done now is to gather together all TT club leaders from Luzon/Visayas/mindanao and organize and be ready anytime. Right now, who is the person in his sane sound mind who would want to be TATAP president and inherit nothing to be proud of except problems and anomalies. We must change everything including the name TATAP. Let’s start a new fresh beginning. I doubt if Binag et al has the mandate now. He is already stepping on the players feet and their welfare as well as the TT community. This is the worst TATAP leadership, I should say as far as I can remember. I don’t see him in tournaments, . Sometimes, I can’t help but ask myself if Binag really knows his duties and responsibilities as TATAP president. Alam ba niya ang gawain?
Hi everyone, bago lang po ako dito sa website pero matagla ko nang binabasa ang mga palitan ng opinyon ng mga miembro. Nakipagpalitan na rin ako sa ilan sa mga inyo bilang guest sa lumang format. Ako rin ay nababahala ngunit hindi nananinibago sa mga situation na ito. Magbabahagi lang po ako ng konting karanasan at kasaysayan ng TATAP. Mula sa panahon ng Gintong Alay, ito na ako mga reklamo at hinanakit ng mga manglalaro hindi lang sa ating table tennis pati na rin sa ibang sport. Masuerte pa nga ang table tennis kaysa sa arnis at dama, kilala na SEAG sport Ako rin ay matagal na table tennis.Dating miembro ng TATAP at kilala ko karamihan ng mga tanyag na manglalaro sa Pilipinas mula 1980. Nakapaglaro at nakasama din po ako sa ilang mga palaro ng TATAP at DECS. Nakilala, namasdan at nakausap ko rin ang mga namuno (apat) at mga ala gad ng TATAP kung paano nila patakbuhin ang administrasyon at alagaan ang table tennis sa Pilipinas. Naibahagi rin nila sa akin at sa ibang nakikinig ang kanikanilang mga plano at pangarap para sa TATAP at para sa ating mga manglalarong Pilipino. Ako at kapwa kong manglalaro at mga estudyante ay naging biktima din ng mga kabulastugan ng nakaraang TATAP admin.
Sa aking opinyon, matapos na mabasa ko ang karamihan ng reklamo at negatibong komento laban sa mga namamahala ng TATAP ngayon, na karamihan (maliban kay Binag at ilang mga opisyal) ay musmos pa lang kilalala ko na ang kanilang hindi maayos na paguugali at ang huwad na pamamaraan, mas higit ng ilang puntos ang pamamalakad ni P.V. at So K.C. para sa ikasasaya ng lahat ng miyembro at ating mga nasyonal players. Marami din silang pagkukulang at nasaktan na damdamin ngunit hindi kasing dami at sama ng kasalukuyan at nakaraang dalawang administrayon.
Kung nasusubaybayin rin ninyo mula noon pa, kahit na ngayon na may website na, wala isa sa mga Presidente o Sec. Gen ng TATAP ay umamin at nag paumanhin ng kanilang pagkukulang at nagpalahad/nareport ng kanikanilang yeard end financial report. Ang madalas kong mabasa sa opisina at pahayagan ay ang kanilang mga paulitulit at kinopyang programa at request ng kailangang budget para sa mga international tournaments katulad ng SEAG.
Maibalik ko ngayon sa kasalukungang problema, hindi pa huliang lahat sa pangangalap ng pondo. Ito pa nga ang magandang simula upang makapaghanap ng ibang paraan o tulong hindi lang para sa mga national players natin ngayon kundi para na rin sa mga susunod pa. Hindi man umabot ang mga nakolekta pa sa Laos SEAG, puede itong magamit para sa susunod na mahalagang proyekto na makakabuti o kapakipakibang sa ating junior program. Ang kailangan lang ay maayos na pagiingat at ng pondo.
Handa akong makisama at tumolong sa bagong administrayon at sa ating mga kabataan, kung sangaayon at tiwala ako sa paraan, dahilan, patutunguan at pagiingat ng pagkolekta,
May tanong ako sa inyo masusan at huwag nyo po sanang mamasamain, ano po ba ang inyong katungkulan o kahalagahan inyong “scheduled to go to Laos for an ocular inspection of the athletes village”
Yon lang po. Salamat sa inyong oras
@gossima1
Welcome to TATAPX. Kung inabutan mo sila PV at So KC ay di tayo nagkakalayo ng edad at maaring magkakilala tayo.
Pero kung nakita mo si PV na wala pang tungkod ay maaring malaki ang agwat natin
Where do you find a leader without passion for the sport he is representing. This is absolutely ridiculous and hard for me to digest. If anyone of you in the community can still understand in simple language what Binag is doing and still in support of his status quo leadership, or not even status quo TATAP but way behind TATAP, go ahead, go out, and shout on top of your voice that you are satisfied with the way TATAP is manned by this people. What our TT community is experiencing now is total massacre of our rights, insult on our intelligence, hurting our feelings and our players and insensitivity towards our passion for our sport. We have to move forward towards a progressive Philippine Table Tennis. Magkaisa tayo. Join the force and be proud to have done something for our sport. Calling on the original pingpong players na may malasakit, makialam na kayo. we need you. Remember, Nasa pagkakaisa ang Lakas. Strength in Unity. Tayo Na.
Bakit tahimik ang mga nasa abroad, hala ipakita ang mga passion at tulong niyo sa sport natin. Dito masusubukan ang tunay ninyong pagmamahal sa ping-pong. Masusubukan ang mga tunay na mga pongers. Be counted.
Harry hindi late ang idea ko, the tournament is scheduled on Dec 5-6 yet, I didn’t know the players will be leaving before the tournament….there is no bulletin from TATAP kasi kaya ganoon. The TT community is not informed properly.
I see.
TATAP should use their website for this kind of events.
di ba 6 sila alis
may balita pa ako baka ma late papunta si ting
dun nalang ipadala. care of. puede rin
the last resort.
pete
Good news yan para ma extend din ang collection
Kailangan pang papalitan ang Peso to $. Any chance to ask Ting’s departure date?
balita lang naman na may posibility na ganyan mangyari hearsay lang naman
but i surely can help them to change into dollars. kung may problema sila sa ganyan.
nandun naman ako sa binay cup with my two kids.
pete
di ko pa naconfirm pero baka si ting sasali sa Binay Cup. If mangyari yun then pwedeng-pwede ipadala ang pera sa kanya sa tourney
yun na nga ikinatataka ko
aalis na nga sasali sali pa di ba sya mapapagod nyan.???? kaka galing pa ata sya sa states.
or gustong subaybayan lang ang anak nya.
unless nga late na sya aalis for seagame. . okay lang ——— baka baka
pete
Whatever is best yogi_bear. I’m calling again all TT clubs participating in the Makati Tournament to give your share for the SEAG TT players. Any amount we can raise will be given directly to the players. If Ting Ledesma can still join the tournament the better. By the way, bakit hindi sasabay si ledesma sa group papuntang Laos? Anything wrong?
i dunno why late si ting pero baka gusto nya pa mag tune up sa laro sa binay cup kasi sasali talaga sya eh. saka december 9 pa naman yung games di ba?
sabagay, good decision on his part kasi walang aircon ang mga quarters sa athlete’s village. Malamig naman ang weather but of course sa ibang mga athletes na pawisin, this is a disadvantage so to speak. nakakaloka talaga ang Laos as host. They don’t have the facilities yet to host a big sports event such as the SEAG. Let’s pray for all our athletes who will see action in Laos SEAG and of course our own SEAG pingpong players. Good luck!
Andito na po ako and i miss you all,ang ganda na naman ang mga nababasa ko dito at marami na naman akong natutunan sa inyo.
punta muna me sa tatap maya hapon at magtanung sa mga planu nila at iconfirm ang date ng alis,i hope makasali pa me sa makati tour.
napakaganda po ang planu niyo masusan para sa natonal players natin,hope makahabol pa tayo.
ano ba yan! malapit na SEA games pero yung mga uniform at ibang spllies nila hindi pa DAW nabibigay???? grabe naman to!
as for coach bong, sabi nya kahit sya daw hindi pa sure if matutuloy sya
yogi_bear, this afternoon pa ang bigayan lahat ng supplies ng mga SEAG athletes at philsports arena after the 6pm mass for them or baka at 10am today. remember yogi, na ang POC ang nag go signal sa TT team natin not PSC, in other words POC ang magbibigay sa mga uniforms, travel suit cases, etc.etc. ganyan talaga ang nangyayari kung and mga sports bodies natin ay hindi nagkakasundo-sundo ng layunin. Politics is again alive. what can we do? pasalamat nalang tayo at napasama ang pingpong team, kasi walang delivery in the last 2007SEAG.
Yogi_bear, did I hear it right Bong is going as a coach? Bong who? Palermo? diba he resigned already from being a TATAP coach? If this is true, muntik na ako mahulog sa kinauupuan ko. Paki update mo naman ako regarding this news of yours.
OMG! yogi_bear I felt nauseated when I learned about Palermo’s inclusion to the SEAG team by TATAP. What the H_____LL !!!! This is totally ridiculous and absurd news I got this early morning. How the H___LL was he able to get into the line up when he is no longer coaching the national team? His only connection with TATAP is that he continues to receive his PSC monthly allowance as a coach despite not coaching/working anymore….Mr. Palermo, be a man of honor and integrity. The whole TT community knows that you have resigned already and ceased to be connected with TATAP. Bakit ka nagpapagamit sa TATAP? dahil ba sa pera? I’m sorry to say that you are indeed an opportunist individual and doesn’t deserve to be in sports, to be in the TT community. Go to H_____LL Mr. Palermo. To TATAP EXCOM, you can all go to H____LL… Nakakaawa kayo with all your desperate moves. Lahat kayo ay nagtatago sa dilim and not in the bright light of truth…
This concern from a TT enthusiast will not affect you for sure. This will not even touch your hearts for you have no hearts at all, but one thing for sure your conscience will bother you for the rest of your existence on earth. Mr. Palermo, I am giving you the chance to clear your name. Ang tanong: Kinukuha mo pa rin ba ang sweldo as a TATAP coach sa PSC? I checked with PSC a few minutes ago lang. I’l wait for your answer.
masusan, i think coach palermo tried to resign but his resignation wasn’t accepted from what i have heard, tahts all what i can say though
yogi_bear, are you telling me now that Mr. Palermo is still coaching the national team since you said his resignation wasn’t accepted by TATAP? I mean is he still working as a coach? Ano ang pakialam ng TATAP kung ayaw na niya mag coach? May magagawa ba ang TATAP if Mr. Palermo really wants to quit?If he really wanted to resign he should have submitted an irrevocable resignation paper. Kaso , half hearted siya sa kunyaring pag reresign niya. In the first place, bakit pa siya nagresign gusto din naman pala niya tumanggap ng pera. Ay naku! mahirap magpaalipin sa pera, Integrity and Dignity are the good values one has to have within oneself. Pag wala ka nito, you are nothing! You are just like a skeleton walking in the desert during a sandstorm. I’m sorry yogi_bear, I don’t get your point of argument. If Mr. Palermo is your friend, tell him that he shouldn’t use this reason (because TATAP didn’t accept his resignation) as a scapegoat to free himself from the crime he committed. guilt is something you can’t hide.
@masusan,
wala naman po kasalanan si Bong Palermo dito eh,mainam nga si Bong ang pinadala po kaysa si Dante bocirin,diba?hahaha…
well,nakuha na namin ang mga supply namin kagabi at ang alis namin ay Dec.6 ng 6am ang flight po namin kaya hindi na po me makasali sa Makati Binays Cup.Nanghihinayang po nga ako pero ngayon palang icongratulate ko na po ang Makati for hosting a super wonderful quarterly tournament.more power po sa inyo sa walang humpay nagpapaligaya sa TT community ng pilipinas.
I just hope that this kind of tournament will be after of QUALITY and not after QUANTITY.
If the organizers’ concern is only the latter, then player’s time will always be at their mercy. I could not imagine when the organizers will say that the non-rank and open will start at 3pm and only to find out that it started at almost 7:30pm (non-rank) with only 1 match play in every bracket. worse, open event participants will play the next day. What about the plight of players who waited from noon until evening and went home without having played a single game just because his name is seeded no. 1 in the bracket.
By the way, may i know how many peso coins they have collected for their so-called donation to the Laos bound TT players.?
the participants were overwhelming. about 450+ were listed. the schedules were a bit late but those that were posted on the walls and the time of their schedules if people carefully looked at the listings the schedules were followed and even the 1st 44 matches for the non rank open were finished. people don’t have to wait all day sa binay cup because the scheds for match plays were posted sa side ng officials table in the gym.
kanina nagpass around kami ng box and we collected about P600 pa lang for the donation. bukas mangongolekta po kami uli. we dont expect much because mga regular na tao lang andun sa binay cup but it still shows concern for our RP team whom ive heard na wla daw allowances na binigay pero meron daw dapat hindi lang yata natanggap? totoo ba to?
dame na tao – mga bata lalo
siksikan na. dumadagdag na ata every quarter?
as said , skill “barometer “nga ng bata ————–larong ito dito. – at masaya
ang bata – walang iniisip yan ———-basta banat ng banat yan.
anyway, paano na yan kapag di na halal si binay ?
so di na sya mayor, ganyan ba ?
paano na itong tournament na ito? just thinking lang naman
pete
Congratulations! sa organizers ng tournament na ito. You have achieved your goals of this tournament. Sayang talaga hindi ako naka daan man lang, I had to pack my things alis na kami for Vientiane, Laos. Mabuti at may internet access sa hotel kasi sa athlete’s village wala. Anyway, I learned that the participants of the Binay TT tournament was jampacked. This only shows a big support from the TT community. All the big guns in table tennis were there except those players going to SEAG. I heard julius Esposo is playing in this tournament, Is this true? Kawawa naman, na echa pwera ng TATAP leadership. Of course D. Ortalla will favor his brother H. to play instead at walang nagawa si Binag.
@ Grandmaster:
PATIENCE is a VIRTUE. If you don’t have this value, stay out of sports. To be an athlete, a coach, supporter, or spectator for that matter needs a lot of patience and perseverance. Good attitude makes a good person. The situation at the tournament yesterday was expected considering the number of participants, but at least everybody was accommodated. I had to email yogi_bear for their side regarding this so I will know the real situation and their side of the story. Did you ever consider the plight of the organizers and the umpires/officials? Wala din sila pahinga, straight din ang trabaho to make sure the flow or the momentum of the matches are not jeopardized. Let us also do our little share in any tournament we will participate in by being positive rather than negative, lalo na kung wala naman point to criticize. Siguro ngayon ka lang nakasali ng ganito karami? Mag pledge ka na ng amount for the SEAG athletes, mas mabuti pa at mas hahangaan pa kita.
@ Kakosa:
What made you say “walang kasal-anan si Mr. Palermo? Ibabalik ko sa iyo ang tanong. Is Mr. Palermo still a coach of the national team? Is he the one making the TT program for your training? Is he reporting for work everyday to train the national team? Why is he still getting his salary as a coach at PSC? Is this right? Who is signing his attendance? Kakosa, criminal offense ito pag nalaman ng PSC. You are not helping your friend Palermo, mas lalo mo lang siya ibinabaon sa kasal-anan. If you are in his shoes Kakosa, will you tolerate this? will you do this?Mr. Palermo, (he may not know this) is part of the syndicate of the TATAP learders. What if I will lodge a complaint at PSC and ask for an investigation on this matter? Mr. Palermo can’t deny the fact that he is personally at PSC regularly to get his monthly salary, PSC record shows. He is not only fooling the TT community, but as well as the Philippine Gov’t because the money he is getting comes from the coffers of the gov’t. Kaya, if I were you Kakosa, help your friend, don’t defend him on that level of reasoning. Anyway, Good luck in Laos SEAG. I will watch your games.
@ Ka Pete:
Thanks for your observation of the tournament. Mabuti pa ang mga bata, enjoying the camaraderie and fun of the tournament. Diba Ka Pete, the ultimate goal of an athlete in competing in a tournament is not just about winning medals, but to have fun and meeting new friends as well? I’m happy to know that the kids had a grand time in the Makati tournament and were enjoying their matches to the maximum. This is indeed a very good sign of motivation in placed. Did your daughter competed? Kumusta? did she improve? I’m sure. Good luck sa future matches niya.
Grandmaster, Don’t doubt the organizers for the money collected from the community for the SEAG TT players. Ito ba ang gawain mo? Nagmalasakit lang ang tournament organizer to accommodate my fun drive request dito sa forum na ito for the TT community to help the national TT players in their own little way, intrigahin mo pa? Ikaw ba nagbigay na? Trabaho niyo ito dapat diba? The amount that will be raised whether big or small will be given to the athletes directly. Don’t worry about this, I trust the Makati TT tournament organizers, kaya nga ako nanawagan sa TT community natin dahil alam ko malinis at may dangal ang mga tao behind this. Tama ba ako yogi_bear? LOL! I have no doubt, not even an inch. My congratulations to all of you pare ko and thank you for accommodating my fun drive request to help our TT SEAG athletes. Sorry for the inconvenience at sa abala. pinagtrabaho ko pa kayo. LOL! Regards to coach Gigi Aguinalde. Mabuhay kayo! you nailed it down…
@ gossima1:
So sorry for the late reply, I didn’t notice you had a post and a question for me. Well, I’m just a passionate TT enthusiast, and play the sport as well. I don’t need to brag my achievements and accomplishments (credentials) in the field of sports, as long as I could be of help to the development and progress of Philippine Table Tennis, this is the bottom line. That’s what I do as a sportsman, I travel to all local and international meets for self gratification. Thank you also for your personal views regarding the past regime, in fact ,some of those you mentioned, I say, are true, All the problems we are experiencing now, were already present during those times you mentioned, but only to a lesser degree. Good leadership must be able to address this pressing problems. Very easy if you have the mandate. To do this? a good leader must have an honest conscience, a clear vision, a big heart, clean hands, sound ears to listen and TAP the TT community. Ask and get help from them, after all TATAP is us, the membership, the entire populace.
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You are very funny Masusan. You are not just fond of hearsay things but also fond of speculating. Who said that I doubted the organizers with the money they collected. Barya nga lang yung nakulekta tapos pagdudahan pa. Sa airport fee or pang taxi, kukulangin yan.
The excuse that because of the huge number of participants, the supposed schedules were not strictly followed is very lame. As an organizer, you already have anticipated the probable number of participants and the probable skeds per table. But since the organizers were after of the QUANTITY, the proper scheduling were not followed. That is not very hard to understand.
The non-rank and open event participants should be spared from waiting the whole afternoon because they are PAYING participants and they deserved to be respected in terms of time schedule because most of them are professionals. They are not kids in the first place who will not mind the time because being there and play matters most to them.
@ masusan, medyo tama si kakosa at yogi bear patungkol kay Coach Palermo..
1. totoong nagresign sya at hindi tinanggap ng TATAP
2. totoo ding hindi na nagpupunta si Coach Palermo sa Practice ng National Team.
3. Ang hindi natin alam kung GAANO kaTOTOO, na may ibang tumatanggap ng sweldo ni Coach Palermo…
Ayon sa aking bubwit, itanong na lang daw natin sa ating VP…nanaman?!
“The excuse that because of the huge number of participants, the supposed schedules were not strictly followed is very lame. As an organizer, you already have anticipated the probable number of participants and the probable skeds per table. But since the organizers were after of the QUANTITY, the proper scheduling were not followed. That is not very hard to understand.
we’re not giving any excuses here. on the first day 1 hour delay was the maximum time that was added to the sched compared to the original sched. on the 2nd day 30 min was the max delay compared to the schedules that were posted.
“The non-rank and open event participants should be spared from waiting the whole afternoon because they are PAYING participants and they deserved to be respected in terms of time schedule because most of them are professionals. They are not kids in the first place who will not mind the time because being there and play matters most to them.”
the schedules were posted on the side of the official’s table including the time. why would you wait there unless you are from a very far place if you know your schedule? sa 2nd day naman dahil yung mga participants ang iba sa kanila ay hindi lang iisang entry ang sinasalihan, pano if magkasabay ang events nila? this is not so hard to understand…..
by the way, kindly compare the binay cup in terms of organization and efficiency sa ibang tournaments sa country na lagay natin kahit mga mga 300 participants na lang.. name me an event na mas organized kesa sa binay cup? quantity is also important in our goals kasi mas maraming naglalaro at na-eexpose sa TT as a sport mas ok pero i dont think na nakaligtaan namin yung quality. next year may budget na kami for added tables which means more people top accomodate. hindi naman cguro namin pwede na ilimit lang ang participants kasi in the first place grassroots program to ng makati eh….
I believe the only organized TT tourney in the country for almost 20 years is the Jawad Cup of Cebu but is limited to the number of competitors. Five (5) minutes din ang tagal for a player to show when he has a game for him na ma-default. So far no complains on scheduling.
Unlike CDO tournaments, basta gusto mong mag-laro at makapaghintay ay pwede kang ma-isingit sa sked. Sa ganung paraan enjoy lahat at alam din nang lahat na ganun ang system so walang complains mga players basta makalaro lang lahat! School kids are priorities, basta naka pag text ka sa organizers na me klase ka pa on that time, pwede e re-sked at walang default. Mapipilitan lang mag-default ‘pag na foresee na kapos sa oras at nde matatapos ang tournament lalo na on the last day.
Sa mga VisMin tourneys na nasalihan ko parati ay wala akong nadinig about complains on registration fees or me nagsabing ” dapat unahin kami kasi nagbayad kami “.
Kung nakapag-organize kana nang isang tourney, theoritically (number of tables, players, venue, and time) ay madaling sabihin but sa reality ay mahirap lalo na pag umaabot na nang 300 participants.
Bakit dyan sa Manila ang daming complains or madami lang madada kesa players? just asking.
the jawad cup is nothing compared to the binay cup. to compare a tourney who has a limited number of participants say 100+ compared to the binay cup na may 450+ participants at natapos lang ng 2 days its a no contest. to think yung 1011 matches gagawin ng 14 lang na umpires in just 2 days is colossal.
marami complaints dito butch sa ibang tournaments yun hindi sa binay cup hindi ganun karami. if meron sa binay cup hindi tulad ng ibang tournaments dito sa manila. if we are not doing a good job sa tourney why is it na dumadami ang participants each quarter at mas marami dumadayo? although sa part naman ng makati we will make sure na may additional tables next time. yung 14 tables kulang pa rin. cguro pag 16 or 18 tables and if matapos ang makati coliseum pwede na idaos ang binay cup doon at aircon pa..
we have stretched our capabilities sa makati, aaminin namin yan pero if people see what obstacles and pressures i don’t think na they would mark our tourney as quality wise needs wanting more di ba? hindi madali mag organize at mag execute ng 450+ participants na tourney at hindi biro yun pero natapos namin ito at yung scheds na nakapost mostly na follow namin yun
I can’t stop but laughing at your justification in your so-called colossal tournament. First of all, bakit kunti lang ang nagreklamo among the participants? The answer is very simple. 80% of the participants are minors and have no qualms about the quality of the tournament as long as they are there present and playing, that’s pretty alright with them. Bakit walang nagrereklamo? eh kasi hindi naman mahilig sa Table Tennis politics ang mga bata at majority of them doesn’t know about the existence of this kind of fora or even if they did, they don’t care. Neither do they care about the noble cause of Masusan in asking for lose coins among the Binay Cup participants so that she can brought it personally to the Laos bound RP TT participants. Insulto naman siguro on the part of Richard Gonzales and Rodel Valle kung bibigyan mo sila ng barya as a donation. Its an added insult to their quandary in the hands of Angping’s PSC.
In closing, my previous statements are merely in a form of calling the attention of the organizers that hopefully in their future tournaments, they should not sacrifice the quality of their tournament over the quantity of the participants. That should not be an excuse for every organizer. But since the tournament is using the name of a Vice Presidential wannabe, I understand the plight of the organizers that in their report to their major sponsor, quantity precedes the quality since from their point of view, the tournament is successful because of the colossal number of their young participants. The non-rank and open events are not the main focus of the tournament in the first place. That is why those non-rank and open event participants have to wait and wait and wait..
May I ask again?
1. What time do the Finals for every event started?
2. How many spectators or players who have watched the Finals for every event?
3. Did the organizers have a closing/awarding ceremony at the close of the tournament?
“can’t stop but laughing at your justification in your so-called colossal tournament. First of all, bakit kunti lang ang nagreklamo among the participants? The answer is very simple. 80% of the participants are minors and have no qualms about the quality of the tournament as long as they are there present and playing, that’s pretty alright with them. Bakit walang nagrereklamo? eh kasi hindi naman mahilig sa Table Tennis politics ang mga bata at majority of them doesn’t know about the existence of this kind of fora or even if they did, they don’t care.”
granting na 80% yung bata. on the 20% na adults how many ang nagreklamo?
“Neither do they care about the noble cause of Masusan in asking for lose coins among the Binay Cup participants so that she can brought it personally to the Laos bound RP TT participants. Insulto naman siguro on the part of Richard Gonzales and Rodel Valle kung bibigyan mo sila ng barya as a donation. Its an added insult to their quandary in the hands of Angping’s PSC.”
pano naging insulto magbigay ng pera from the participants and spectators sa event para sa rp team? ikaw ba si richard or si valle at masasabi mo na insulto para sayo? the money that was donated kahit gaano kaliit binigay yun ng mga tao whole heartedly para sa RP team ano masama dun? pano naging insulto yun? hindi ba dahil sa pagbibigay ng mga tao dun mo makikita na may malasakit sila sa players? so kung player ka porke mga 1000 peses mahigit lang ang nalikom ng mga tao sa yo dahil gusto nila mapakita ang suporta nila sa yo maiinsulto ka? ang alam ko nakausap ko ang isang rp team member nung binay cup before siya umalis. bakit hindi siya nainsulto at sinabi pa nya “ok na lang yan kuya kasi kesa sa wala kaming allowance at kahit pang snacks na lang namin pwede na yun.” and by the way, kilala ko si nok2x valle at si richard. judging from their integrity and character hindi sila yung tipong tao na magrereact sa akala mo. mag aassume ka pa na maiinsulto sila may nagpakita ng concern sa kanila ang mga kababayan nila?
“The non-rank and open events are not the main focus of the tournament in the first place. That is why those non-rank and open event participants have to wait and wait and wait..”
like i said, this is a grassroots tournament and nakapost yung schedules dun sa gilid ng officials table. mahirap ba pumunta sa gilid then tingnan mo ano yung oras ng laro mo at when ka bumalik? what is your point here? the focus is on the younger table tennis players, ano problema mo dun? kaya nga ginagawa namin ito para sa future players kaya ang focus sa kanila.
the finals started 1 hr late than the projected time because the players play in not just one category and we have to wait for them to finish. ano problema dun? ano gusto mo i-default namin sila dahil naglalaro pa sa kabilang table just to accomodate you? kung ikaw kaya naglalaro sa isang table at may isa ka pang laro ok lang sa yo i-default kita para ma accomodate yung ibang players na naghihintay? if ikaw ang organizer, will you limit the number of categories na masalihan ng isang player? pano kung malalayo yung lugar nila? isa lang sasalihan nila then uwi na? ang goal namin dito makapaglaro ang mga bata at teens on diff. categories. maximum exposure at laro and we have achieved that because that is our goal. it may not be in line with what you are expecting but that is our goal sa tournament? ano problema mo dun? you have to weigh the pros and cons here. there are sacrifices to be made. if ayaw mo maghintay bakit ka pa sasali sa tournament? alam ko kahit US open nga or any other ITTF pro tour events naghihintay pa rin sila eh. some pros from the international scene told me normal lang naman minsan 1 or 2 hrs na dedelay ang finals for some reasons.
masusan says :
@ Ka Pete:
Thanks for your observation of the tournament. Mabuti pa ang mga bata, enjoying the camaraderie and fun of the tournament. Diba Ka Pete, the ultimate goal of an athlete in competing in a tournament is not just about winning medals, but to have fun and meeting new friends as well?
= tama sama sama na yon lahat.
pero syempre kung bata ka pa yung goal mo is to win. – the spirt of challenge is very strong.
pero kapag umiidad ka na – iba na ang ” lasa” at vision ng sport mo.
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I’m happy to know that the kids had a grand time in the Makati tournament and
were enjoying their matches to the maximum.
= ang gulo nga eh ahaha masaya na magulo
healthy noise – ika nga
This is indeed a very good sign of motivation in placed.
= a sign of progress pa kamo sa binay cup
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Did your daughter competed? Kumusta? did she improve?
I’m sure. Good luck sa future matches niya.
= Son po – they call him ka wang hao ,at may bunso pa akong isa , lumaban rin, muntik ng makalusot eh
mga 1 year palang nag practice 10 yr old under category
Dati si ala ‘wang hao’ pinapakyaw nya lahat ng kid event kahit 3 events. up to 17 — champ
ngayon dahil sa dami at galing na sumasali , at lumalaki na at na dagdagan na ang age
eh 14 under at 17 nalang sya qualify ,survive nalang sya sa 14 at 2nd place nalang
this time at ang first place at least kasamahin din ng fil -chi
yun yung anak ni kakosa ang nag champ na. ——–walden ledesma
linktik si kakosa ha recent champ na ang ama , champ pa ang anak . galing ha ,
labanan ng mga may dugong “texas” ahahahah ———congratulation !!!
inabot kami ng halos 11 pm ah . kami nalang natira sa championship. ahahah
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next tourney ibahin nyo na , para medyo di mahirapan ang mga bata at magulang.
baka daw gawin 3 days because of growth at venue baka sa malaki na
my suggetion is at least ang last day championship, last day – ilagay sa one of the makati mall
para iba naman ang audience.
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anyway maganda ang laban in an over all comment. maghanda handa lang sa dagsa ng bata next time,
at in what way di gabihin ang mga bata , dahil lalo na may pasok pa kinabukasan.
pete
@ Grandmaster:
What is funny? what is there to laugh about? What hear say are you talking about? I never do write ups from hear say sources. the nerve to accuse such. LOL!!!!!!
All competitors should have equal footing in any tournament. No one should be given a special treatment just because one is entered in the open or non-rank categories. Selfishness has no place in sports. Why blame the younger age groups for the dilemma of waiting. With the payment of P100 for registration and the 14 and under categories get a free pass, gives you the right to be treated differently from them? Gives you the right to your whims and caprices? No way, We will never give in to any of these craziness. P100 reg. fee is nothing for the experience to play with the best players in town, and the fun and camaraderie of the tournament that goes with it? Ang mura ng fee na ito para yurakan mo ang tournament na ito. As I have said if you have no patience to wait, then don’t join the tournament as simple as that. There is nothing to explain after all, deadma!! Say whatever you want to say, I give you the floor…and if you have the decency, come out of your shell and face the music. Huwag magtago sa lungga to level the playing field. Don’t hide your identity kung matapang ka talaga.
Kung barya barya lang ang na raise ng organizers, so what? Is there a problem? at least these people have a big heart for our TT players, what about you? what have you done for your players? It’s so unfair for you to speak in behalf of the TT players. Why will these two players be insulted for the small amount raised? If what you have said is true, then I just pity them for they don’t know what they are talking about. They should even be grateful for this good deed of the community. It maybe a meager amount but the thought and the love of these people just to go out of their way to chip in an amount is remarkable and can’t be duplicated.
You don’t know me, you don’t know my being, so you have no right to malign my personality? Tell me what issues I raised without basis? I’m not afraid to face anyone, shame on someone who belittles somebody he doesn’t know well. This is absolutely ridiculous. Hindi rin ako utusan ok? I only suggested the campaign for the fund drive, hindi LBC delivery ang business ko ok?
Yogi_bear, may kasabihan tayo na kapag mabunga ang puno, ito’y binabato. Grandmaster can’t even answer you direct to the issues you raised in your response to his queries. You are good in your analysis, nasapok mo si grandmaster ng katotohanan at scientific na reasoning. No match pala sa iyo ang taong ito LOL!!!!!!
I’m becoming to be curious about the two TT players he mentioned. How could it be an added insult to their perplexities with PSC? This amount, so small as it is, can even ease the pain, the hurts, they are experiencing with PSC’s insensitivity to their needs. This TT players are in a state of uncertainty with PCS.You have not done something to help them? You have not done your share? This is ignominy on your part. Not being able to do one’s duties and responsibilities toward this national TT athletes is a total disgrace, embarrassment and condemnation on your part and the TATAP leadership. Why the H__LL are you blaming the Makati tournament organizers of the help they have extended for the benefit of the TT players. Well, kung ayaw ng mga players na ito at sabi mo nga baka mainsulto pa, di huwag na silang tumanggap. Ibigay sa mga players na marunong tumanggap ng kabutihan o tulong sa pamilya nila.
To the Makati TT Tournament Organizers, Thank you! at MABUHAY kayong lahat. you have done a very noble contribution to Philippine Table Tennis. Keep up the good work . Expect a lot of negative comments, kakambal iyan ng progress.. mahirap kayong talunin kasi….maraming maiinggit for sure. Again, You have nailed it down perfectly. Kudos!!!
eto pa ang dumali sayo Oso!… sabi ko na nga ba…dapat mga bata na lang? nde siguro naka-antay si Grandma? LOL.
@yabadabado,
Puso mo Megs. Baka atakhin ka sa puso mo nyan, sobra pa naman ang lipids mo sa tiyan.
Scientific reasoning? ROTFLOL.
Mr. Oso did not even bother to answer my question directly. Puro indirect lahat. Pano nya natumbok yun?
FC ka pala kina Nok2x at Richard, by the way, when was the last time you visited crame? Hanggang Makati, HP at eb nalang ba ang pinupuntahan mo ngaun?
Magaling lang kayo mangpuna sa iba pero kung kayo na ang punahin, di nyo na pala ma take? lolz
@masusan
Ingat po sa byahe ha? Pasalubong naman jan. Pls dont forget to give us an update regarding our TT players in LAOS. Kung ok ba ang quarters nila at enjoy sila sa binigay ninyo na pang snack nila.
For the information of the TT Community, according to my reliable source, the finals started at 10:30 in the evening with only those players who will play in the finals plus their peers/parents present. Wala na nga daw awarding kasi kapos na talaga sa oras. Now, that is really a colossal tournament and well organized!
Hindi ba kayo naawa sa mga bata especially those from Pateros? I know mag-aabsent yun the following day dahil sa pagod na rin at puyat.
@grandmaster
“Scientific reasoning? ROTFLOL.”
gumamit ka ng 80% mga bata ang arguement. tinanong kita, granting nga na 80% yung mga bata at 20% yung mas may edad bakit ikaw lang may may reklamo? simple logic lang naman yun di ba? you brought up the percentage but you never stated the rest of the 20% saan mga opinyon ng mga yun? im using your arguement here. since sabi mo 80% ang mga bata then automatic 20% yung mas may edad, now where are so many complaints coming from the 20%??
“Mr. Oso did not even bother to answer my question directly. Puro indirect lahat. Pano nya natumbok yun?”
i answered all your questions both directly and indirectly hindi mo lang tinatanggap
“FC ka pala kina Nok2x at Richard, by the way, when was the last time you visited crame? Hanggang Makati, HP at eb nalang ba ang pinupuntahan mo ngaun?”
ahh so kelangan ko pala makita silang 2 sa crame, sa labas ba hindi?. i never claimed more than what i said na kilala ko sila at kilala ko ang ugali nila at hindi sila ganun. nice try for you to sidetrack the issue that you have brought up. pakisagot nga uli yung tinatanong ko kasi ikaw yung umiiwas eh. pano naging insulto para kina richard at nok2x na yung mga taong may concern sa kanila nag-ambag ng pera para sa kanila at kasama nila??? hindi ko ma gets ang logic nito eh. yung PSC wlang perang binigay sa kanila then may mga taong in their own little way wants to help masama pala yun kasi maiinsulto sila??? you are the one putting words in their mouths yet wala naman silang sinasabi na ayaw nila. PA ka ba nila??
“Magaling lang kayo mangpuna sa iba pero kung kayo na ang punahin, di nyo na pala ma take? lolz”
What do you mean hindi namin ma take? it doesnt mean na namumuna kami wla kaming right na ma defend sarili namin. karapatan namin yun.
“For the information of the TT Community, according to my reliable source, the finals started at 10:30 in the evening with only those players who will play in the finals plus their peers/parents present. Wala na nga daw awarding kasi kapos na talaga sa oras. Now, that is really a colossal tournament and well organized!”
the finals started at 9:20pm but because multiple entry ang isang participant sa ibat-ibang categories hindi namin ito tinapos. again, nice try of not answering my statements and questions and then diverting the issue here. pakisagot nga nito grandmaster:
“the finals started 1 hr late than the projected time because the players play in not just one category and we have to wait for them to finish. ano problema dun? ano gusto mo i-default namin sila dahil naglalaro pa sa kabilang table just to accomodate you? kung ikaw kaya naglalaro sa isang table at may isa ka pang laro ok lang sa yo i-default kita para ma accomodate yung ibang players na naghihintay? if ikaw ang organizer, will you limit the number of categories na masalihan ng isang player? pano kung malalayo yung lugar nila? isa lang sasalihan nila then uwi na? ang goal namin dito makapaglaro ang mga bata at teens on diff. categories. maximum exposure at laro and we have achieved that because that is our goal. it may not be in line with what you are expecting but that is our goal sa tournament? ano problema mo dun? you have to weigh the pros and cons here. there are sacrifices to be made. if ayaw mo maghintay bakit ka pa sasali sa tournament? alam ko kahit US open nga or any other ITTF pro tour events naghihintay pa rin sila eh. some pros from the international scene told me normal lang naman minsan 1 or 2 hrs na dedelay ang finals for some reasons.”
alam ko ang style ng arguements mo. hindi mo masagot yung counter ko sa yo then you try to sneak out of it in a subtle way tapos maghahanap ka pa ng ibang butas or hindi mo sasagutin directly ang mga sinabi ko. ikaw ang hindi sumasagot directly hindi ako. simple lang ang arguements ko sa taas oh bat hindi mo masagot? bakit ikaw ang nagsasabi para kay richard or kay nok2x? PA ka ba nya?
“Hindi ba kayo naawa sa mga bata especially those from Pateros? I know mag-aabsent yun the following day dahil sa pagod na rin at puyat.”
bakit hindi mo sabihan si gener galang na isang category na lang laruan nila para mas konti ang playing scheds nila at hindi sila maghintay? multiple categories sinalihan nila unless you can find a way to clone them for them to play all the matches together in different categories pwede yung gusto mong mangyari.. bakit ikaw nagrereklamo para sa mga bata ng pateros at ikaw nagsasalita sa kanila? gagamitin mo pa yung mga bata para gumawa ka ng apoy? si gener prangka na tao yun sa akin at kaibigan ko yun bakit hindi sya nagrereklamo at ikaw ang nagrereklamo?
Mas matindi ang Mindanao Milo Little Olympics elimination last 2008 sa SM Cagayan de Oro. Natapos nang 11:30pm (sarado na lahat dept. store) championship between Iligan versus CDO at walang reklamo mga batang studyante at parents nila… Iligan City is 2 hours ride from Cagayan de Oro City. Sulit kasi ang mga laro–teamplay and single events.
oopss, ako lang pala nagreklamo noon kasi nde pinalaro junior ko sa singles kahit sya ang defending champion.
sumali po ang club namin sa binay cup.maganda po ang resulta ng tournement.sa sked po naman minsan advance ng 30 min minsan delayed ng kaunti.14 po ang sumali sa club namin karamihan mga bata at may mga sumali din sa non-rank at open.sa non rank po wala naman po kaming broblema sa schedule kc may naka post po .nabigyan pa po kami ng libreng raketa at racket case ni coach gigi aguinalde sinabi pa nga po nya galing daw yon sa tatapx at green paddle.maraming salamat po sa binay cup organizers at mga nag sponsors.
@ grandmaster:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! ear to ear…. We are not on the same level of intellect that’s one thing for sure, kaya you can’t rebut or refute our arguments. Hirap na hirap ka pare ko. Hindi mo masagot si yogi_bear strait to the point…point by point…you are starting to break down and run out of reasons. If I were you, you better watch out, you better not cry, you better not pout, I’m telling you why? HOHOHOHOHOHOHO!!!!
Yogi_bear, don’t waste your time and energy answering irrelevant and irreverent questions. You have more important things to attend to than him. Baseless accusations at pang-gulo lang ang banat. Kung baga sa boxing at taekwondo bara-bara lang sa tira. Give it back to him by all means. He is a person full of envy, and an idle brain este mind gunigo. Look this up in the British/German book ha? I’m sure you don’t know the meaning of this word, para matuwa ka naman kahit papano. hahahahahahaha! I pity you Mr. Djeey, ikaw lang ang putak ng putak.. How’s the new TATAP? hindi kayo brainy kasi ang daming loop holes ginawa niyo. Wala ba kayong magaling na lawyer, I mean a brilliant corporate lawyer? mukhang mali ang deskarte niyo….Kakanta nalang ako….you better watch out! you better not cry! better not pout! I’m telling you why! Santa Claus is coming to town…He knows when you are sleeping, he knows when you’re awake, he knows when you’re been BAD or good, so be GOOD for goodness sake….lalalalalalalalalalala! hahahahahahaha!
Next Makati tournament yogi_ bear, can you ask coach Aguinalde what’s at stake? Handa kayo for a bigger participation from the TT community. Maybe I will suggest for a free accommodation for two nights for the provincial participants only. This is not a remote possibility, kayang-kaya ng city of Makati ito. Aba TATAP where are you? Talo kayo ng Makati in terms of grassroots development program, this is the core of any sport association to progress. Envy na naman kayo sa kakayahan nila? hahahahaha! They don’t need you, they can stand on their own. They can even put up their own National Sport Association if they want to. They have the number and the mandate. Grandmaster, pasalamat kayo, peace loving people ang mga taga Makati at hindi kayo ginugulo. I commend coach Aguinalde for this effort. He is an accomplished person in the field of table tennis. Marami na daw natutulungan na mga tao sa community natin pero tahimik at walang yabang. Where can we find this kind of person? He is a friend to many, walang inalipusta walang kinawawa.
I’m not going to SEAG, I will be here for some sports clinics. If you can come out of your hiding place grandmaster, face me. I will see you. You know the email of my executive assistant, its listed in this forum. marami ka pa palang hindi alam sa pamamalakad ng isang organization.hahahahahaha!
xxx masusan says:
December 8, 2009 at 12:48 pm
I’m not going to SEAG, I will be here for some sports clinics. If you can come out of your hiding place grandmaster, face me. I will see you. You know the email of my executive assistant, its listed in this forum. marami ka pa palang hindi alam sa pamamalakad ng isang organization.hahahahahaha!xxx
@Masusan,
Why such a sudden change of heart?
My memory is still fresh regarding ur previous statements and I will gladly quote it here so that you could at least remember. Iba na talaga pag tumatanda, nagiging ulyanin. wakekekeke….
xxxmasusan says:
November 27, 2009 at 5:23 am
Malapit na ang tournament na ito, ilang tulog nalang mga ka pongers kita-kits na naman kayo. Don’t forget to bring an extra piso for our SEAG TT national team ha? makiisa tayo sa layunin na ito. Sayang, wala ata ako sa tournament because I’m scheduled to go to Laos for an ocular inspection of the athletes village. according to my sources, the athlete’s quarters are without airconditioning facilities. Ewan ko ba itong Laos na ito ang yabang mag host ng SEAG, unequipped pala in almost all areas. Sana hindi naman malamok at kawawa ang mga athletes. LOL!!!!!
masusan says:
December 6, 2009 at 9:33 am
Congratulations! sa organizers ng tournament na ito. You have achieved your goals of this tournament. Sayang talaga hindi ako naka daan man lang, I had to pack my things alis na kami for Vientiane, Laos. Mabuti at may internet access sa hotel kasi sa athlete’s village wala. Anyway, I learned that the participants of the Binay TT tournament was jampacked. This only shows a big support from the TT community. All the big guns in table tennis were there except those players going to SEAG. I heard julius Esposo is playing in this tournament, Is this true? Kawawa naman, na echa pwera ng TATAP leadership. Of course D. Ortalla will favor his brother H. to play instead at walang nagawa si Binag.
@ Kakosa:
What made you say “walang kasal-anan si Mr. Palermo? Ibabalik ko sa iyo ang tanong. Is Mr. Palermo still a coach of the national team? Is he the one making the TT program for your training? Is he reporting for work everyday to train the national team? Why is he still getting his salary as a coach at PSC? Is this right? Who is signing his attendance? Kakosa, criminal offense ito pag nalaman ng PSC. You are not helping your friend Palermo, mas lalo mo lang siya ibinabaon sa kasal-anan. If you are in his shoes Kakosa, will you tolerate this? will you do this?Mr. Palermo, (he may not know this) is part of the syndicate of the TATAP learders. What if I will lodge a complaint at PSC and ask for an investigation on this matter? Mr. Palermo can’t deny the fact that he is personally at PSC regularly to get his monthly salary, PSC record shows. He is not only fooling the TT community, but as well as the Philippine Gov’t because the money he is getting comes from the coffers of the gov’t. Kaya, if I were you Kakosa, help your friend, don’t defend him on that level of reasoning. Anyway, Good luck in Laos SEAG. I will watch your games.
xxx
@Yabadabado,
I hope I am wrong with my interpretation with regards to your statements but If I may interpret it right, the participants who entered in more than one event is the culprit why the Binay Cup’s finals started at around 10 in the evening. So practically, its not the organizers fault even if they have 6 events slated in their tourney. Its the participants themselves who should be faulted why they participated in the other events that delayed the colossal and well organized tournament.
Maybe you should ask Pete to limit Wang Hao’s participation in the next Binay Cup this coming March 2010 so that the schedule and the finals will not be delayed and that the Finals will be watched by majority of the participants.
grandmaster says:
December 8, 2009 at 10:04 am
FC ka pala kina Nok2x at Richard, by the way, when was the last time you visited crame? Hanggang Makati, HP at eb nalang ba ang pinupuntahan mo ngaun?
yogi_bear says:
December 8, 2009 at 10:28 am
ahh so kelangan ko pala makita silang 2 sa crame, sa labas ba hindi?.
You did not get the question. I am just curious on the last time you ever visited PNPTTC. Curious lang. Its not related about your being close to Richard and Nok2x by the way. I just want to know if you still have the face to show to the famous personalities in there with all your concerned comments about how TATAP is governed by them.
Poll Question:
Pano nyo pala ipapadala ang P1t+ na donation nyo sa mga atleta natin?
1. Western Union ba?
2. G-cash?
3. Si Ting? (Hindi naman pwede si Ting kasi Dec. 6 ng umaga ang flight nila. )
4. Hand carry ni Masusan papuntang Laos? (Eh ayaw na ni Masusan pumunta ng Laos kasi me “sport clinics” daw sya)
5. Si Yogi?
Paghati-hatian ng apat na Atleta natin ang P1t+ na donation. Pwede na rin yan pambili ng LAAP dun sa Vientiane. Ok na rin yan. Its a noble cause naman yan at brainchild pa ni Masusan so wag na nating kontrahin ok? Congrats to Masusan for such a noble cause to our TT delegates
@grandmaster
“@Yabadabado,
I hope I am wrong with my interpretation with regards to your statements but If I may interpret it right, the participants who entered in more than one event is the culprit why the Binay Cup’s finals started at around 10 in the evening. So practically, its not the organizers fault even if they have 6 events slated in their tourney. Its the participants themselves who should be faulted why they participated in the other events that delayed the colossal and well organized tournament.
Maybe you should ask Pete to limit Wang Hao’s participation in the next Binay Cup this coming March 2010 so that the schedule and the finals will not be delayed and that the Finals will be watched by majority of the participants.”
hehehe yes you are wrong. i never implicated na kasalanan ng participants but its just that the situation calls for it na dapat hintayin yung mga players dahil hindi lang iisa ang category na sinasalihan nila…
why should i play in pnpttc? eversince august nakahanap ako ng malaruan na marami ang naglalaro and what is the connection of where i play sa discussion na ito? avoiding the issues again? and why should i play there pa? its like if i play there para ko na ring sinusuporta ang tatap! at least ako may pinaninindigan
by the way grandmaster, it is now apparent na hindi mo gustong sagutin yung mga issues na binalik ko sa yo. you are avoiding to answer the questions directly and what you are doing is putting up more issues just to divert the attention on things you said. you have opened a can of worms for yourself by saying those things and seeing that you cannot argue your way out of it iniiba mo ang usapan at hindi mo sinasagot yung issues na bibalik sa yo. yan kasi pag gagawa ka ng apoy or issue next time siguruhin mong kaya mong panindigan.. makikipag debate ka na lang sa akin hindi ka pa handa lol! hindi na lang kita papansinin kasi hindi mo naman kaya makipag argue at discuss ng maayos
there are instances di nga ma control ng organiser
yes i agree.
me being a player understand this. ——– eh nuun 21 pa ang score nuun inabot pa nga kami ng hating gabi lalo na
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sa pagod at awa kinabukasan di na pinapasok , half day yung dalawa kong bata ko ng misis ko. inaway pa ako.
inaway ko rin sya. haha
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lalo na ang tao na wala sa sports di maintindihan nito l the ins and outs
ako naintindihan ko kahit pa dillemna ng organiser.
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isip nalang tayo na mas magandang paraan next time.
dumadami ang tao dumadami rin yung participation sa ibat ibang category ,yes exposure nga ang habol ng iba. syempre fully loaded na tuloy.
pete
Yogi_bear, pinapatulan mo pa rin ang gunigong grandmaster na iyan? hahahahahahahaha! sariling wika ang gamiton mo kasi mahina talaga ang ulo…kung ano-anong topic lang ang sasabihin, walang laman, in English, walang substance ang mga pinagsasasabi. hindi niya talaga tayo masagot about the real issues. Hanggat hindi niya tayo masagot sa mga ibinato natin sa kanya, deadma ka nalang. huwag nang patulan.walang sense pinagsasabi niya. Bakit nga pala yogi pinapakialaman niya ang nalikom niyong pera sa fund drive for the athletes? pati ba naman ito may balak na masama. basta pera, nangangati ang mga kamay. ibigay niyo na lang kaya sa kanya? pihadong sasaya siya.hahahahahahahaha!
sariling wika na ang ginagamit ko sa kanya para hindi na siya masyadong mag-isip pa kung ano isasagot niya. Pati ba naman mga sinasabi ko na hindi naman mga main issues pinapatos. Ibig sabihin wala talagang maisagot, as in bokya ang coconut shell. hindi mo ba ako napapansin yogi, pag siya bumanat, linalaro ko lang siya katulad ngayon. hindi ko seneseryoso. lalong naiinis, ito gusto ko, mas bagay ito sa kanya.
hehehe buhay pa ba si rod navarro ?
@grandmaster; mapapasubo ka sa hangin nitong si the soul masusan. Ang may pakana ng FUN DRIVE hahaha. FUN FUN FUNNNNY ! sa tingin ko dalawa lang ang nag uusap dito si yogi_bear at masusan the soul… giniginaw ako sa hangin ng kumag na ito.
hahahahahahahaha! Stalker? naku humirit at nangintriga ka na naman…walang magawa? kung lumabas ka lang sa lungga mo, malalaman kung sino ang mahangin sa ating dalawa….hahahahahahahaha! Let’s talk sense here….nakakapagod makipag-usap sa taong wala akong natututunan. write something with substance naman please, kung wala, tumahimik nalang. nakapagbigay ka ba ng dollars sa mga players natin? buti pa ang mga bata sa Makati tournament kahit maliit lang na halaga nakapagbigay. Iyan ba ang yabang? hahahahaha! Inggit kayo….hahahahahaha. If you talk with sense at totoong tissues, mayabang ka agad ang sa tingin mo? hahahahaha!
What issues are you talking about Madam Masusan? Actually, I don’t have to delve with you and Taba-dabado regarding your so-called issues. There are no issues actually. If there is one, I think it is a 3-letter word that starts with a Y and ends with an O, in short, the issue is really YOU.
You reminded me of someone from the other site who keeps on praising the achievements of the three young kids in the second largest City in California. In the end, I came to realized the reason for such extolment, it was understandable for a father to not only praise his children’s achievements but also advertise them well.
In fairness to you, I and many of us TT enthusiasts here in tatapx admired your in-depth knowledge about TATAP, PSC and POC. We don’t question your tirade against the current TATAP Administration since we are also appalled on how our beloved sport association is being (mis)handled. However, going against the current administration while campaigning/advertising for someone is another thing. It doesn’t make any sense to me personally and I can sense that I am not alone with my observation.
After a careful perusal over your statements and reactions, I came to formulate my old-school analysis and conclusion…..
As what I said in the preceding paragraph (2nd paragraph), you reminded me of someone from the West Coast. You are his counterpart in Makati and the bottomline of you two can be summarized by saying a borrowed quote:
“BLOOD IS REALLY THICKER THAN SPEED GLUE.”
……….Ganyan ba talaga kayo sa Makati?
@ grandmaster:
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Be man enough to come out of your snapper shell…. So? Sorry, I don’t talk to strangers…If your with TATAPX, I just pity you…you made a poor taste remark…eat it up!!!!
Why such a sudden change of heart?
My memory is still fresh regarding ur previous statements and I will gladly quote it here so that you could at least remember. Iba na talaga pag tumatanda, nagiging ulyanin. wakekekeke….
xxxmasusan says:
November 27, 2009 at 5:23 am
Malapit na ang tournament na ito, ilang tulog nalang mga ka pongers kita-kits na naman kayo. Don’t forget to bring an extra piso for our SEAG TT national team ha? makiisa tayo sa layunin na ito. Sayang, wala ata ako sa tournament because I’m scheduled to go to Laos for an ocular inspection of the athletes village. according to my sources, the athlete’s quarters are without airconditioning facilities. Ewan ko ba itong Laos na ito ang yabang mag host ng SEAG, unequipped pala in almost all areas. Sana hindi naman malamok at kawawa ang mga athletes. LOL!!!!!
masusan says:
December 6, 2009 at 9:33 am
Congratulations! sa organizers ng tournament na ito. You have achieved your goals of this tournament. Sayang talaga hindi ako naka daan man lang, I had to pack my things alis na kami for Vientiane, Laos. Mabuti at may internet access sa hotel kasi sa athlete’s village wala. Anyway, I learned that the participants of the Binay TT tournament was jampacked. This only shows a big support from the TT community. All the big guns in table tennis were there except those players going to SEAG. I heard julius Esposo is playing in this tournament, Is this true? Kawawa naman, na echa pwera ng TATAP leadership. Of course D. Ortalla will favor his brother H. to play instead
Hoy masusan ang dakilang bakla na oso, sagutin mo ang tanong bakit lahat ng sinabi mo wla ka . Si yogi_oso lang ang naka front lagi mukhang wlang masusan kundi osong bakla lang nyahahahaha. Ang lakas ng loob mong sabihin ” come out of your snapper shell eh ikaw ang isang nilalang na wlang body hahahahah; ang ibig kong sabihin soul ka lang. Wala kang identity malibas sa pagiging masusan na bisayang osong bakla mwhahahahaha. Ang lakas ng loob mong sabihin nakilala mo si richard, ang tanong kilala ka ba niya o baka naman nakita mo sa crame nung wla ka pang malaruan na club at pinag mamalaki mo na. Yung mga rubber na donation na galing sa ITTF sure ka bang pinamigay mo lahat or may binentahan ka ng mga player.
masusan alyas osong bakla ano ang kapalit ng pinag gagawa mo ? maging nurse ba ? sa makati ? ilonggo ka nga.
@Stalker,
Please read closely Masusan’s post before yours. There is an implied admission on her part. Iba si Oso although me similarity sila sa katawan – daming lipids. Lalaki si Oso pero kung makapagsalita, daig pa ang babae…in short, shokla kung makapagbitiw ng salita. In fairness, I admire the guy’s in depth knowledge about table tennis….Kaya lang, hindi niya ma apply yung theory niya in actual practice. I am sure he will have a hard time beating Pete’s youngest son who played in the 10 & under division last Binay’s Cup.
grandmaster, lol you resort to name calling kasi hindi ka makapag discuss ng maayos at hindi mo ma defend yung mga salitang binitawan mo? cguro nga wla akong skills sa pingpong grandmaster at cguro kung gaano ako kawalang skills sa pingpong ganun ka rin ka wlang kwenta sa debate at discussion hehehe.
stalker, kilala ako ni richard though where in the world na sinabi ko na close kami? magresearch ka muna ha? hindi ko kelangan gumawa ng alyas para magbitaw ng salita. bat ikaw nagtatago ka sa isang nickname? and you think sisirain ko yung name ko dahil lang sa rubber? baka ikaw oo ako hindi
by the way stalker, i dont have any beef with you pero ang masasabi ko lang ano ngayon if ilonggo ako? if totoo yung sinasabi mo why is it until now hindi ako nagwowork sa makati? kaya mo bang i-sacrifice ng sandali career mo para sa pingpong? nakaalis na sana ako ng bansa if ginusto ko but i choose to stay muna, kaya mo ba yun or hanggang salita ka lang? by the way, yung alam kong kaibigan mo yun ang nagbebenta ng rubbers na donated galing sa labas hindi ako. magresearch ka if sino binentahan ko ng rubber galing ITTF at ipahiya mo lang sarili mo once na malaman mo ang totoo. and also, hindi ako si masusan. i don’t have any reason to hide gaya mo. ipa-check mo pa ang ip address kay harry at ito lang ginagamit ko lagi.. if napagkamalan ka ni masusan na si jon ebuen ngayon ako napagkamalan mong kami ni masusan iisa lang? ganun ka ba ka desperado malaman sino sya. mag research ka stalker at wag ako yung gawan mo ng isyu dito
@masusan aka osong bakla;yogi_baklang oso:
masusan says:
December 11, 2009 at 1:44 am
” Yogi_bear, pinapatulan mo pa rin ang gunigong grandmaster na iyan? hahahahahahahaha! sariling wika ang gamiton mo kasi mahina talaga ang ulo”
Paano mong hindi sasabihin na hindi ka ilonggo eh wala namang tagalog na salitang GAMITON at GUNIGONG, Baklang oso ! TingInan natin kung hangang saan ang mararating mo bilang Nurse kamo hehehe. Hindi ba ang yabang mo ! Ang tanong bakit hindi ka nag wo work sa makati …. Bakit nurse ka na ba ?
Mas ginusto mo pang mag stay dito kaysa mag abroad kamo. Tama ba? O mag aabroad ka na sana pero mas ginusto mo pang mag stay dito ? dahil ba sa gusto mong mag trabaho sa makati kung …. O dahil masarap mag ahente ng rubber at mag laro ng apoy eh este ping pong pala.
Hoy matutan aka osong bakla, alyas yogi_baklang oso, wala kang lugar dito sa pingpong dahil ikaw ang magulo dito ga……..o. Pinalililt mo lang ang mundo mo…
@grandmaster:
What campaign are you talking about? I have never campaigned for anyone. clear it out! you’re so fond of making baseless comments that eat you up and put you down the drain…
@ stalker:
have the decency to think first before you open your mouth. You are now hitting somebody below the belt without basis. who gives you the right and authority to do it? pati ba naman ang topographical error of the word “gamiton” which was supposed to be “gamitin” ay pinatulan mo na rin? hahahahahahaha! go ahead…no big deal…
Well…who is showing good breeding here? lemeseee….
What implied admission on my part grandmaster? I have been challenging you to come out of your hiding place and face me to level the playing field…deadma! this is the best thing for you….
hahahaha. the more ka nag-aassume na iisang tao kami ni masusan the more mo ginagawang tanga sarili mo eheheheh. anyway, yung friend mo pala stalker, yun ang lam kong nambebenta ng rubber na donations hindi ako. oo pinili ko na wag muna mag work sa ibang bansa so? ano ngayon? magkano ba naman sweldo ng nurse dito sa pilipinas? IF nagbebenta ako ng rubber na donation magkano lang kikitain ko kaya? mas malaki yung sweldong tinurn down ko kesa sa presyo ng rubber na ibebenta ko. i guess hindi mo magegets yan stalker kasi cguro yung logic mo ay logic ng isang bobong elementary student?? and oo nurse ako as in RN??!!!
nagmumukha ka tuloy na tanga stalker. ako pa yung pinili mong tirahin rito dahil iniisip mo na ako at si masusan ay iisa. if i have something against you matagal na kita tinira dito sa forums at hindi ko kelangan magtago sa isang id tulad mo. ikaw yung bading dito hindi ako hehehehe
by the way stalker if may utak kang tao paki tanung mo si harry at paki check yung ip addresses namin ni masusan if pareho. 3 min lang ang pagitan ng post namin oh
Your IP and Masusan’s are totally different.
I also posted somewhere when masusan thinks that stalker and paradise are one, they have different IP addresses and from different countries.
@ all.
Mukhang nagkakainitan na tayo, kunting preno please.
not 3 but more or less 10 min
As a moderator of this forum, he has the right to ban any erring poster here. binabastos na itong napakagandang avenue for pingpong enthusiasts to discuss, suggest, and inform anything pertaining to this sport. IP’s are private properties of the members, no one has the right to it unless the owner of those says so. Harry is the only person who have access but he shouldn’t be dictated upon by anyone…he must follow the law of privacy and secrecy.
Yogi_bear, matindi pala ito si stalker magsalita, is he using so many accounts? he seems to be over the top of everything, feeling ang galing-galing niya. magsilabas na nga kasi kayo sa lungga. I’m positive takot sila sa iyo..
You bet, I cannot simply disclose A + B personal info; where A=alias and B can be anything like IP address, location, email address etc.
That is why TATAP got angry with me when I didn’t disclose any info of the posters here.
hindi ko na yan papansinin mr masusan. cguro dahil sa kakahanap ni stalker kung sino ka napagkamalan pa ako na ikaw. nagmumukha tuloy na tanga hindi kasi nagrereasearch eh. pareho lang yan sila ni grandmaster, gagawa ng isyu hindi naman kaya pangatawanan at gagawa pa yan ng mga isyu para matakpan yung mga pinost nila na mali. akalain mo bang sasabihin nya na maiinsulto yung tatanggap ng donations kasi maliit daw! cguro hindi sya pinalaki ng maayos ng nanay nya or better yet wla syang nanay. hindi man lang cguro sya tinuruan ng pasalamat kahit sa mga mumunting bagay. ewan ko ba bat ginagawa nyang isyu yan eh according naman kay sir ting ok naman sa kanila bat sya ang narereklamo at gumagawa ng isyu? cguro pinalaking ingrato yang si grandmaster at tsismoso ng nanay nya… mga KSP lang yan at mga wlang kredibilidad mga yan, wag na nating pansinin… ang mga taong puro lang dakdak na wla namang ginagawa hindi dapat pinapaniwalaan…
@masusan alyas yogi_baklang oso,
As a moderator of this forum, he has the right to ban any erring poster here. binabastos na itong napakagandang avenue for pingpong enthusiasts to discuss, suggest, and inform anything pertaining to this sport. IP’s are private properties of the members, no one has the right to it unless the owner of those says so. Harry is the only person who have access but he shouldn’t be dictated upon by anyone…he must follow the law of privacy and secrecy.
sino naman ang mag interes na hanapin ang IP add mo. Samantalang bukong buko ka na. Hoy hindi typo error ang sinabi mo tanga.
Off mo lang ang computer mo at pumasok ka ulit bago na ang IP mo gunggong kaya wag ka ng mag pautot ng kabalastugan mo Baklang oso.
At sino ka naman para mag utos sa admin samantalang ikaw na mismo hindi naniwala kay Harry ! Gunggong
Yogi_baklang oso ikaw lang ang nag paandar ng abuluyan para sa Nat’l team. Ayon sa sinabi mo na may bahay ka sa amerika na binebenta mo dapat malaki ang contribution mo dahil mayaman ka ano sa tingin mo?
ay yun lang pala basehan mo at nag conclude ka na iisang tao kami ni masusan stalker? para ipakita ko pa yung katangahan mo, alam mo bang wlang word na “gunigonggong” sa ilonggo? at alam mo ba yung word na “gamiton” hindi lang ilonggo kundi pati cebuano at ginagamit rin sa ibang dialect? yun lang pala basis mo? tanga mo naman! at bakit naman ako magchi change ng ip eh aminado ako hindi ko linya yun at hindi ko lam kung pano? if yun lang basis mo then cguro tsismoso ka nga at tanga talaga..
Harry says:
December 16, 2009 at 9:44 pm
“Your IP and Masusan’s are totally different.
I also posted somewhere when masusan thinks that stalker and paradise are one, they have different IP addresses and from different countries.
@ all.
”
Mukhang nagkakainitan na tayo, kunting preno please.
ay klaro oh!!! and si masusan yung hindi naniniwala kay harry hindi ako..
Talking of IP address… I could be anywhere in the word but physically nasa Cebu pa ako!
I already tried it before at hilong-hilo ang nag-trace sakin…ha..ha..ha..
Mahirap gumamit nang dalawang “alias” ang isang tao dahil sa takbo nang iisang utak unless gifted ka or genius ka na paiba-iba style of writing mo.
IMHO.
There are many ways to hide your IP and many web anonymous proxy server available nowadays.
Experts says that full anonymity on the Internet, is not guaranteed since IP addresses can be tracked.
Why you need to hide your IP?
I absolutely agree with you Butch re IP address 101%. The moderator of this forum is the only person who knows our IP ads nobody else. You can only tract down IP ad if you know it, but if you don’t definitely you can’t. That is why, its the moderator or the owner of the website who knows everything about the members or the posters of his website. He’s the only one who has the password to go in the site of its members and in control of it all. It takes a lot of neutrality and integrity on the part of the owner to handle such.
Stalker, you’re such a piece of gunigun split into pieces. I pity you… I don’t even know if you still have the breeding. Harry is just too good for you. Remarks like what you’ve said has no place in this kind of forum, you should be banned. Your statements are below par and do not have any sense of decency and manhood. You attacked, stubbed without mercy. Who are you in the first place? Are you from another planet? You aren’t human. I didn’t understand everything you’ve uttered, Words came from all points of no return and from the outer space clogging my clean tiny inner ear canals.
I stand with what I said about Stalker and Paradise. It will not change. If these two aliases are indeed two different individuals, definitely they belong to one tree/one family for sure. Apparently, both speak the same lingua, the same language. very obvious. You are again correct Butch. The language used by a poster/person is distinct enough to be noticed. Anybody can use the account of another person anytime. If I’m overseas, I can borrow an account from another person anywhere in the Philippines anytime If I want to, but I don’t. Using different internet cafe stations produces different IP’s , but the manner a person writes and the use of words is more reliable to know the real identity of the poster.
What’s the big deal about IP’s ? PIKON na kayo? Natatamaan kasi kayo sagad to the bones. Truth is what will set you free mga amigos. Come out of your shells and face the music. I’m just around anytime, anywhere for you…I hope people realizes their mistakes in the past. I never make statements without basis. Release ENVY from your system and move on for good. Call on GOD, your Lord and savior…He will not forsake you no matter what…
I wonder what these people ( who are talking non-sense) have contributed for Philippine Table Tennis….Tell me!
@masusan aka yogi_baklang oso
Baklang oso says:
As a moderator of this forum, he has the right to ban any erring poster here. binabastos na itong napakagandang avenue for pingpong enthusiasts to discuss, suggest, and inform anything pertaining to this sport. IP’s are private properties of the members, no one has the right to it unless the owner of those says so. Harry is the only person who have access but he shouldn’t be dictated upon by anyone…he must follow the law of privacy and secrecy.
Sa ibang posting nya hindi siya naniwala kay Sir Harry. Pero sa salita mo dito baklang Oso parang takot kang pakilaaman and identity mo. “law of privacy and secrecy” Gayun paman hinahamom mo si Grandmaster, Si George Sanches na mag kita kayo. Si George sa America pa nakatira pupuntahan mo pa hehe, Ganun din si Grandmaster gusto mong eyeball dito sa pinas. Ang yabang mo pang mag hamon ! eh puto ka naman.
Baklang oso says:
I absolutely agree with you Butch re IP address 101%. The moderator of this forum is the only person who knows our IP ads nobody else. You can only tract down IP ad if you know it, but if you don’t definitely you can’t. That is why, its the moderator or the owner of the website who knows everything about the members or the posters of his website. He’s the only one who has the password to go in the site of its members and in control of it all. It takes
Hahaha parang dito naniniwala ka sa moderator. Anong klaseng utak meron ka masusan aka baklang oso.
Baklang oso says:
What’s the big deal about IP’s ? PIKON na kayo?
Hindi ba ikaw ang nag pasok ng issue about IP add hehe ang tanga mo naman masyado kang malimutin. Hindi ako o kami interesado sa identity mo tanga dahil wala ka naman din silbi maliban sa pag iingay mo dito at sa hilaw mong “FUN RAISING”. Hahaha.
Baklang oso says:
pati ba naman ang topographical error of the word “gamiton” which was supposed to be “gamitin” ay pinatulan mo na rin?
1. yogi_bear says:
December 17, 2009 at 7:22 am
ay yun lang pala basehan mo at nag conclude ka na iisang tao kami ni masusan stalker? para ipakita ko pa yung katangahan mo, alam mo bang wlang word na “gunigonggong” sa ilonggo? at alam mo ba yung word na “gamiton” hindi lang ilonggo kundi pati cebuano at ginagamit rin sa ibang dialect? yun lang pala basis mo? tanga mo naman
Sabi ni yogi_baklang oso wala daw gunigonggong.. malay ko ba hindi naman ako bisaya. At ang word na gamiton ay ginagamit ng ilonggo at cebuano pati na din ibang part ng visaya region. Aha baklang oso hindi nga TOPOGRAPHIC ERROR ANG WORD NA GAMITON. Sino ngayon ang tanga diba ikaw pa rin. Dahil nag kabuhol buhol na sinasabi mo. Tanga !wala ata ako sa tournament because I’m scheduled to go to Laos for an ocular inspection of the athletes village.
Masusan baklang oso says:
Sayang talaga hindi ako naka daan man lang, I had to pack my things alis na kami for Vientiane, Laos.
Sayang hindi ka naka attend ng tourney sa makati dahil mag pack ka papuntang Laos. Anong nangyari ? Hindi wla ! inspection huh Oi baklang oso siguraduhin mo ang bawat bitaw mo ng salita ! dahil lahat nag babasa dito hindi na maniwala sa pag yayabang mo. Tanga.
Hindi ba ikaw ang nakaka awa masusan aka yogi_baklang oso !
hahaha the more nagiging katawa tawa si stalker kasi nagmumukhang tanga ka na talaga sa assumptions mo. cguro nga tanga ka talaga. napatunayan ka na na mali ka magpapalusot ka pa sa katangahan mo! nyahahahaha!
“Sabi ni yogi_baklang oso wala daw gunigonggong.. malay ko ba hindi naman ako bisaya. At ang word na gamiton ay ginagamit ng ilonggo at cebuano pati na din ibang part ng visaya region. Aha baklang oso hindi nga TOPOGRAPHIC ERROR ANG WORD NA GAMITON. Sino ngayon ang tanga diba ikaw pa rin. Dahil nag kabuhol buhol na sinasabi mo. Tanga !wala ata ako sa tournament because I’m scheduled to go to Laos for an ocular inspection of the athletes village”
hindi ka nga bisaya the more reason na hindi ka dapat mag assume kasi the more ka nagmumukhang tanga! magpapasulot ka pa sa logic mong kasing kitid ng utak ng lamok! nag assume ka na dahil nag gamit ng word na “gamiton” si masusan inassume mo na na ilonggo sya at dahil ilonggo sya sa paningin mo inassume mo na kami ay iisa!! wowwwww ang tanga mo naman!!! granting na bisaya si masusan pano mo masasabi na ilonggo sya eh yung “gamiton” na word hindi lang pang ilonggo??? bwhahahahahaha! tanga!!! graduate ka naman ng college bat ganyan ang logic mo nyahahaha! cguro ganyan talaga yung pinalaki sa environment na puro basagulero at puro pangmumura bwhahahaha! yung bisita nyo nga sa bahay stalker nung pnatulog mo minumura mo pa na parang kaaway mo lang di ba? nyahahhhaha
Mga kapongers,
Nakikiusap po ako sa inyo na ihinto niyo na po ang pagpapalitan niyo ng mga salita,wala pong sense ang pinag uusapan na ninyo.sana po for the love of our sport at malapit na po ang Christmas,lets forget the bad things and go for the good.
God bless sa inyong lahat and Merry Christmas and happy New Year mga kapongers…